School and Recruiter Reviews

Re: Nanchang Hangkong University in Nanchang, Jiangxi Province -- SS -- 19 March 2010

I would agree with the above poster, I have been working as a teacher at the University for a few months now and find that they look after their foreign teaching staff very well. I thought it would ...

Academy of Language Arts Higashine, Japan -- Jack Stone -- 18 March 2010

ESL/EFL ORGANIZATIONS: PLEASE POST THIS ON YOUR BOARD WITH THE OTHER SERIOUSTEACHERS.COM SCAM POSTS. seriousteachers.com, and their other sites, allestrarecruiting.com, engcanada.com, ...

Re: Academy of Language Arts Higashine, Japan -- Turnoi -- 18 March 2010

Thanks for telling us; good to know. That Allestra Recruiting thing has been a topic on the scam board of this site already: http://www.eslteachersboard.com/cgi-bin/scamalerts/index.pl?read=718 I ...

Bahwan CyberTek Vacation Pay Scam -- bangkok_bob -- 17 March 2010

This is how the scam works: If you stay one year, you won't get vaction pay. If you renew the contract for the second year and return to Oman in September, you'll get vacation pay for the ...

The Lewis School, Barcelona -- Maria -- 16 March 2010

Hello, has anyone heard of The Lewis School in Barcelona? If so, what have you heard? I've been researching different schools in the Barcelona area and keep coming back to this one. Also, what ...

LLC Maldives, Language Learning Centre/ Male -- Mark -- 16 March 2010

I worked for the LLC in Maldives and nothing I read here (Leila's post) seems to be true. The classes are indeed not airconditioned however the temperature rarely exceeds 27C (in the Maldives). ...

global line start, kunshan, pr china -- zvon mesarov -- 16 March 2010

to all foreign teachers global line start,kunshan is not a school................. it is a business to make the owner [robbie] rich...........how appropriate is that???????????? they have vilfied me ...

Re: global line start, kunshan, pr china -- Turnoi -- 19 March 2010

Hi, Zvon - I am quite willing to accept that you most likely must have had some pretty bad experience with that company; there are so many of them in China these days. However, I must tell you that ...

Yuncheng IELTS -- Advisor -- 15 March 2010

Anyone who intends to work at that woeful Yuncheng IELTS place should also remember that they will be villified by Ian and Paul and later sacked if show any romantic inclination toward any of the ...

Re: Yuncheng IELTS -- Turnoi -- 15 March 2010

It's good if these professors encouraging you to find a Chinese wife! That means breaking up a big cultural and mental barrier, and as such this is a hopeful sign! Good luck!

Re: Yuncheng IELTS -- Turino -- 15 March 2010

Anyone who intends to work at that woeful Yuncheng IELTS place should also remember that they will be villified by Ian and Paul and later sacked if show any romantic inclination toward any of the ...

Re: Hess in Taiwan? -- Alyce -- 13 March 2010

Hi Dan, could you tell me, honestly, how is HESS as far as legality and workload? I was really excited about the company - I've been pouring over their website and it seemed really great. Then I ...

Re: Hess in Taiwan? -- Turnoi -- 14 March 2010

Then I got the forums and started seeing horrible stories about how they aren't legit (that the kindergarten classes are actually illegal??? and that teachers have gotten deported?). I had never ...

Re: Hess in Taiwan? -- AMonk -- 14 March 2010

Hi Alyce, I doubt if "Dan" will reply. His posting is 30 months old now, and I can't recall seeing much (anything) else from him since this appeared. Good Luck with your job hunting, though.

LLC Maldives, Male. -- Leila -- 9 March 2010

Please, stay away from Language Lerning Center LLC Maldives [edited]. Perpetual blackmailing on working conditions, playing with the salaries, awful teaching conditions-no materials, no a/c in the ...

COLORFUL SUNSHINE - KAIFENG -- NATHAN DALE -- 9 March 2010

if you get offered any job from colorful sunshine english education centre - STAY AWAY!!!!! I accepted a contract with them that at first didnt sound to bad, i went there and the school itself is a ...

Donations urgently needed ---LOL -- Turnoi -- 10 March 2010

I used to know a place that was too dark to be really sunny, and I knew a place that was colourfull but had nothing than the colours of tristesse. The name of that place??..... Oh yeah, that was ...

Seojeong College Yangju, South Korea -- David -- 8 March 2010

If you are one of the unfortunate people to have been recently lured into working at this 2 year college by a job ad on the Internet, then I pity you. The Korean manager, Kim Dong Seop will try to ...

yuncheng ielts -- CHINAGIRL -- 6 March 2010

WARNING: KEEP AWAY FROM YUNCHENG IELTS! I HAVE BEEN THERE RECENTLY, THE TYRANT AND FAKE TEACHER, "LAOWAI HATER PAUL" IS STILL THERE! THIS "SCHOOL" IS A JOKE AND RIPS OF FT's AND LOCAL CHINESE ...

Re: yuncheng ielts -- Migrant Worker -- 12 March 2010

I have met Paul personally through my travels. He does leave a lot to be deserved but I have met far worse. Paul is basically the Chinese owner's pet, and he loves the attention like none other. ...

Re: yuncheng ielts -- Ian Hornblower -- 12 March 2010

We should be pleased for Paul that he has at last found his niche in this universe in Yuncheng. There, his life has become somewhat meaningful, some might even go so far as to say he has evolved into ...

This greatness is not great -- Lauretta Thistlethwaite -- 13 March 2010

Paul from Canada is great, and Yuncheng IELTS is even greater; the only thing not so great is their cheat, trickery, and absolute dishonesty and bigotry. This is the year of the tiger, and the tiger ...

Re: yuncheng ielts -- Shanxi Prince -- 7 March 2010

WARNING: KEEP AWAY FROM YUNCHENG IELTS! I HAVE BEEN THERE RECENTLY, THE TYRANT AND FAKE TEACHER, "LAOWAI HATER PAUL" IS STILL THERE! THIS "SCHOOL" IS A JOKE AND RIPS OF FT's AND LOCAL CHINESE ...

Re: yuncheng ielts -- I Smell a rate -- 13 March 2010

I have also worked for this Yuncheng Ielts outfit, and I can verify much of what is said about it Paul Mcgree, Mr Canadian, is indeed the pet foreigner of Mr River and some other fellow who calls ...

Re: yuncheng ielts -- Shanxi Prince -- 13 March 2010

The Chinese "assistants" they hire are atrocious. I have yet to meet more contrary, self important "assistants" in my entire life. Never have a had someone argue with me more, and try to run things ...

Re: yuncheng ielts -- Silverboy -- 15 March 2010

Masybe some of these young women do deserve sympathy. However, I would never work at any school or university where there was ANY TA. I do not want any of these mostly silly young women telling me ...

Re: yuncheng ielts -- Turnoi -- 15 March 2010

Maybe, it would perhaps be a better idea to date some of these TAs if they look fine?

Re: yuncheng ielts -- Fellow -- 17 March 2010

Ha ha ha ha ha ha....

Re: yuncheng ielts -- Shanxi Prince -- 15 March 2010

They may be able to speak English reasonably well, however they do not know how to teach, they are not qualified in anyway to asess the teaching abilty of any FT and submit teaching reports. What you ...

Re: yuncheng ielts -- Turnoi -- 14 March 2010

They deserve our sympathy, not our criticism! No, they neither deserve sympathy nor criticism. That's all too much at a personal level, it means to ignore the system that is behind all that and ...

Re: yuncheng ielts -- Turnoi -- 7 March 2010

The LAOWEI HATER PAUL - is that the person we know as "excellent teacher"?...LOL

Re: yuncheng ielts -- Silverboy -- 8 March 2010

I think it was "Excellent Ian". Amyway, whatever, they all think they are "excellent" at that crappy place. They are in the running for membership of a new 2010 "Hall of Shame"

Too excellent to be really excellent -- Turnoi -- 10 March 2010

Paul aka Ian is probably too excellent to be really excellent.......LOL

Re: Too excellent to be really excellent -- Shanxi Prince -- 10 March 2010

Paul aka Ian is probably too excellent to be really excellent.......LOL No, Turnoi, you're wrong - Paul is from Canada, whereas Ian is a burly Welshman who is an accomplished guitar player. As ...

Re: Too excellent to be really excellent -- CHINAGIRL -- 10 March 2010

One thing is for sure, they are both accomplished morons, two more degenerate laowei on the loose in the backblocks of China. I wish lowlifes like Ian and Paul would stay in places like Shanghai or ...

Re: Too excellent to be really excellent -- cunning linguist -- 12 March 2010

One thing is for sure, they are both accomplished morons, two more degenerate laowei on the loose in the backblocks of China. I wish lowlifes like Ian and Paul would stay in places like Shanghai or ...

Re: Too excellent to be really excellent -- Turino -- 12 March 2010

Joking apart, I reckon that Yuncheng IELTS and the like, as employers in China, do serve a useful purpose for FT's sixty and over, most of whom are greybeards, including old goats like Paul and ...

Re: Too crappy to be excellent at all! -- Turnoi -- 13 March 2010

I am an "old goat" at the age of sixty, I am a greybeard (or at least gray-haired) but I do not lack any of the educational requirements for teaching and do not disqualify for a legal teaching job in ...

Re: Yuncheng IELTS "School" -- Oldtimer -- 13 March 2010

I am an "old goat" at the age of sixty, I am a greybeard (or at least gray-haired) but I do not lack any of the educational requirements for teaching and do not disqualify for a legal teaching job in ...

Re: Yuncheng IELTS "School" -- Silverboy -- 14 March 2010

Turnoi is not interested in teaching in China, and more importantly, he is overqualified to do so in my opinion. Even he was offered work at one of China's so called "high ranking universities". ...

What is the difference between an "old goat" and an old, nasty crocodile? -- Turnoi -- 15 March 2010

The "old goat" that I am..hahaha. Oldtimer would be much worse off if I was a nasty crocodile instead of an "old goat"..... The "old goat" does not give anybody a big bite, it's only filling ...

Re: Yuncheng IELTS "School" -- Turino -- 14 March 2010

The content of many of Turnoi's posts gives me no choice but to agree with him that he is indeed an old goat. I think we should all thank him for his courage - he is not afraid to point out that ...

Re: Yuncheng IELTS "School" -- Turnoi -- 14 March 2010

As Turnoi is a self-confessed old goat of sixty, his age would in fact disqualify him for teaching legally in China, in accordance with a Chinese employment regulation. True, if this regulation would ...

Re: Too excellent to be really excellent -- Turnoi -- 11 March 2010

Are my two most favorite pets, Linda and Jeff, also accomplished morons? I am not so sure, they are some nice big, fat crocodiles...LOL.

Re: Too excellent to be really excellent -- Shanxi Prince -- 11 March 2010

Turnoi, it seems that you and your most favourite pets, Linda and John, are fishing in troubled waters regarding the old chestnut, Yuncheng IELTS. Be aware that Yuncheng's salt lake would not be ...

More than Salt & Water -- Migrant Worker -- 12 March 2010

There is allegedly more than just salt and water in that lake. During my travels, I engaged in conversation with police inspectors in a drunken stupor. He told me, in his influenced daze, that some ...

Re: More than Salt & Water -- Turnoi -- 13 March 2010

During my travels, I engaged in conversation with police inspectors in a drunken stupor. He told me, in his influenced daze, that some drunkards that have crossed Yuncheng’s finest have met their ...

Re: Too excellent to be really excellent -- Turnoi -- 11 March 2010

My pets could probably do a a good job in eating up the owners and managers of that crappy Yuncheng IELTS place there, I guess......

Re: Too excellent to be really excellent -- Turnoi -- 10 March 2010

Well, however, we should grant them the benefit of the doubt and assume that all of them are "too excellent..."...LOL

Balanced View afraid to reveal identity???? -- Nathan -- 4 March 2010

I have never posted anything but now I will. I'm Nathan, from the USA and I'd like to know who you are. Are you refering to me in your post? Please specify, and don't be so afraid to ...

Canadian House Centre, Loja, Ecuador -- Irish_10 -- 4 March 2010

I've just returned from teaching at Canadian House. I taught there for 5 months. On 1st arrival it seemed like a pretty professional set up and all teachers were warmly received. Over the 5 ...

Re: K.I.S. Korean International School in Shenzhen - ESL school review -- expat -- 3 March 2010

Checkmate - thanks for your contribution. You obviously knew KIS well, and your description of the school atmosphere is bang on, but unfortunately, your information is out of date by about 6 months, ...

Re: K.I.S. Korean International School in Shenzhen - ESL school review -- Turnoi -- 6 March 2010

From your updated information, I can only conclude that nothing has changed to the better and that even the new people running this disgusting place are like the old ones - knowing nothing about ...

Michigan Academy / NaviESL / Suwon -- Liz -- 3 March 2010

Hi i was offered a position in Suwon with Michigan Academy. Has anyone heard of Michigan Academy?? I've been hearing horror stories about Hagwon schools and how they tend to be shady. I've ...

Website:http://www.syaeducation.com I E-mail: admi@syaeducation.com -- Mis. Wrath -- 2 March 2010

He is known by the name "JEFF"! He mainly recruits "native speakers" and gives them work in schools in Qingdao, CHINA. Usually kin Qingdao, tecahers get paid 12,000 rmb to 15,000 rmb per month. He ...

Jeff Sya, Guo SyaEducation -- Sue -- 12 March 2010

I was so happy to see that someone else posted about this son of a B****!!! Jeff Sya, or "Guo" works for global crossroads and the TEFL Institute. His contracts are illegal, his business is illegal. ...

Re: Jeff Sya, Guo Sya Education -- Turnoi -- 13 March 2010

Why don't you report this guy to the the police and the competent provincial Bureau of Foreign Experts?

Re: Website:http://www.syaeducation.com I E-mail: admi@syaeducation.com -- Turnoi -- 3 March 2010

That "Jeff" is probably the same person I had once met near Qingdao in Shandong Province - it is a recruiter hiring you to other schools and taking a certain percentage off your salary each month. ...

Re: Website:http://www.syaeducation.com I E-mail: admi@syaeducation.com -- Miss. Wrath -- 3 March 2010

Yes, he is!!! The thing is, he uses even 18 year old kids as teachers and put them everywhere! And he keeps a secret how much you would be receiving as a salary. 8,000 for a housing for you???? an ...

Re: K.I.S. Korean International School in Shenzhen - ESL school review -- extrog -- 1 March 2010

Whoever this woman is, she's obviously a delusional paranoid and should seek help. Seriously!

Re: K.I.S. Korean International School in Shenzhen - ESL school review -- Rocket -- 1 March 2010

Hi, I am an Australian. I lived and worked in Shenzhen for 3 1/2 years. It was difficult to say the least. I am not a feminist but in the past have been accused of being a misogynist. So in response ...

Ideology and Religion in China -- Turnoi -- 6 March 2010

My theory is that China being a nonreligious culture then it attracts immoral, or amoral people. Not necessarily so. Since Confucian times, Chinese culture and most of its people have been more or ...

AND Ninghai, Ningbo, Zhejiang -- Rocket -- 1 March 2010

Watch OUT for AND Language School - xuexiao - in Ninghai, Ningbo, Zhejiang. I have just walked out on them, 3 days ago. The manager [edited] is a liar, cheater and racist. Everything he says about ...

Re: AND Ninghai, Ningbo, Zhejiang -- Turnoi -- 1 March 2010

Your report about that "school" may be shocking, but I am not wondering anymore - there are many crap places like that with owners and so-called "managers" who do not know how to run a school and who ...

Re: sunny english school in Hohhot and Meizhou -- Ray -- 1 March 2010

As far as Hohhot being "in the middle of nowhere", I have to disagree as it is a city of 1.3 million. I have been here a little over a year and while it's no Shangrila, it has high speed internet ...

Re: sunny english school in Hohhot and Meizhou -- Turnoi -- 5 March 2010

Hohhot and the entire of Inner Mongolia is in the middle of nowhere as well as these crappy sunny english "schools" in Hohhot and Meizhou. "Sunny English School" is not "sunny" at all but a cold and ...

Re: sunny english school in Hohhot and Meizhou -- Silverboy -- 6 March 2010

I agree, any school in China with the name "sunny" in it should be avoided. I have also met many women in China called "Sunny" and they were all dumb. FT's planning on teaching at Sunny English ...

Re: sunny english school in Hohhot and Meizhou -- Turino -- 5 March 2010

Better to run around Huhhot to unite with 40 or so louwai to banish your thoughts of homesickness. Or were they all herded together by the FAO there for one reason or another? Maybe to teach the ...

Re: sunny english school in Hohhot and Meizhou -- Ray -- 2 March 2010

Also, to answer your question, I do not work or sunny english. I work for a University here and a test training facility. I did point out that "if you had a bad experience with a school, it was ...

Re: sunny english school in Hohhot and Meizhou -- Morgan Abrahams -- 2 March 2010

Hi Ray, About teaching in Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region as a foreigner, is it still the case that, unlike most provinces and other autonomous regions, you need to submit proof from your ...

Re: sunny english school in Hohhot and Meizhou -- Turnoi -- 3 March 2010

Morgan, it is quite obvious that Ray is too much fascinated by the Mongolian grasslands and also perhaps by the Mongolian ponies whispering against the wind over there. He does not know or is not ...

Re: sunny english school in Hohhot and Meizhou -- Turnoi -- 1 March 2010

You did not say anything regarding the criticism of that crap sunny place. May I ask whether you are working for them and have been made to post in their favour here? Inner Mongolia is one of the ...

Re: sunny english school in Hohhot and Meizhou -- Ray -- 2 March 2010

Come on man. Are you really that bitter about the experience you had here. I can't talk about the crappy conditions at Sunny English because I don't know anybody that has worked there, ...

Re: sunny english school in Hohhot and Meizhou -- Turino -- 3 March 2010

I used to like Hohhot,but not any more.It's too much of a concrete jungle now.Not the real China that it was before!Too big now and too much traffic.The way things are going in China,I'd say ...

Re: sunny english school in Hohhot and Meizhou -- Silverboy -- 6 March 2010

Yes, both Beijing and Shanghai are crap, a lot of stupid loser ethnocentric laowai there, and also Chinese women with an entitlement mentality.

Re: sunny english school in Hohhot and Meizhou -- Turnoi -- 2 March 2010

Grasslands,,,,,that reminds me of Mongolian ponies whispering with the wind....LOL I have visited in Inner Mongolia myself (including major cities) and I found them very boring, poorly developed, and ...

KIS International School Shenzhen -- Extrog -- 28 February 2010

On Wednesday, February 24th. 2010, the entire teaching staff, including the foreign principal, and all foriegn and Chinese teachers, resigned and walked out of this school. This is the third time in ...

Re: K.I.S. Korean International School in Shenzhen - ESL school review -- extrog -- 28 February 2010

This is the latest on KIS International School. On Wednesday, February 24th. 2010, the entire teaching staff, including the foreign principal, and all foreign and Chinese teachers, resigned and ...

Re: K.I.S. Korean International School in Shenzhen - ESL school review -- Chengdu CT -- 1 March 2010

I had a friend that left to go there and teach. Needless to say he was back two months later. Wouldn't really talk about all the crap that happened there other than say, it was the worst of a ...

Mazoon College, Muscat Oman -- Swami Gomez -- 27 February 2010

AVOID Mazoon College, Oman. Reasons: deceptive recruitment practices, payment problems as in 'not paid'- unpaid work, breach of contract/deceptive/unfair/illegal contract/ almost daily lying ...

new standard training center liuzhou -- jim -- 26 February 2010

This school has no license to operate. Thet claim to be able to get you a visa, yes they can. If you are not a teacher. They have no authority to hire foreign teachers as a school. They are ...

Re: new standard training center liuzhou -- englishgibson -- 27 February 2010

i bet many fts will appreciate jim's warning. reading about so many shite schools/centers makes me wonder if there are any respectable employers in china at all. cheers and beers to all remaining ...

SSM English Gangnam Seoul Korea -- English Teacher -- 25 February 2010

Definitely avoid at all costs. History of breaking contract without going through the proper channels, failure to pay, non-existent teacher support while the job is being done and then unfair and ...

AVOID - Shandong Provisional Modern School Culture Institute in Jinan -- Justin -- 25 February 2010

Or International Volunteers Foreign Teachers of Harmony English Teaching Experimental Research Center They are actively searching for many new teachers on this site and others to replace all the ...

Re: AVOID - Shandong Provisional Modern School Culture Institute in Jinan -- Paul Dulac -- 14 March 2010

I got an email from hxenglish04@163.com offering me a job. I talked to Thomas from the other email listed. He spoke to me on MSN messenger and told me they are actively looking for many many teachers ...

Re: AVOID - Shandong Provisional Modern School Culture Institute in Jinan -- Anonymous Advocate -- 4 March 2010

Hello, I have just been informed that another email address that this shady company is using is teachenglish03@163.com I hear they are now trying to use different email addresses to contact their ...

Re: AVOID - Shandong Provisional Modern School Culture Institute in Jinan -- Turnoi -- 5 March 2010

These well-known crooks have gone into hiding, and that's why they are changing their email addresses all the time and are using new aliases all the time. These scumbags are definitely to be ...

Re: AVOID - Shandong Provisional Modern School Culture Institute in Jinan -- An angry hardworking teacher! -- 3 March 2010

I also have had issues with this company. They continually give excuses and lies for why I was not paid correctly, also the other foreign teacher had the same problems. There were two of us at the ...

AVOID - Shandong Provisional Modern School Culture Institute in Jinan -- JUSTIN S. -- 8 March 2010

AVOID THIS COMPANY AT ALL COSTS -CINDY ZHANG -DALE SHENG -MR YIN (THE OWNER) Be especially careful of CINDY ZHANG. She will constantly remind you that she is your "friend" and ask to borrow money ...

Re: AVOID - Shandong Provisional Modern School Culture Institute in Jinan -- Justin P -- 10 March 2010

I'm saddened to hear they ripped off another foreigner. I wrote this to warn potential teachers of their scams, and I keep hearing about more and more victims of their scams. I hope all this will ...

Re: AVOID - Shandong Provisional Modern School Culture Institute in Jinan -- Trevor -- 25 February 2010

Hello Guys and Girls, Reading about what you have mentioned about the visas and being conned by these people, all i can say is that be aware more next time as there are many people like that out ...

Re: AVOID - Shandong Provisional Modern School Culture Institute in Jinan -- Turnoi -- 27 February 2010

I would agree with all you say in general - but please do refrain from addressing the general audience here with "Guys and Girls". We are not kids, and I assume you aren't either - or are you?

Re: AVOID - Shandong Provisional Modern School Culture Institute in Jinan -- Trevor -- 27 February 2010

No Turnoi i am not a kid. My apologies for using the wrong words "Guys & Girls" With regards to my comments on this thread i suggest we just get on with what we do best and stay away from people like ...

Re: AVOID - Shandong Provisional Modern School Culture Institute in Jinan -- Turnoi -- 27 February 2010

My apologies for using the wrong words "Guys & Girls" Well, I am 60 years of age, and with that in mind, I would neither consider myself a "girl" nor a "guy" ......LOL i suggest we just get on with ...

Re: AVOID - Shandong Provisional Modern School Culture Institute in Jinan -- Turnoi -- 25 February 2010

A good report on how those crooks operate. Thank you. I suggest that all of us give them a sign that their actions of cheat are not acceptable: DO NOT SIGN UP WITH THEM!

Re: English in Action, Slovakia -- English in Action -- 24 February 2010

Please note that 'English in Action, Slovakia (David Schofield)' has no connection whatsoever with English in Action (Limited), which is based in Canterbury in the UK. English in Action ...

avo-bell school of English -- Suzanne Hoetzl -- 24 February 2010

I am a beginner and was looking into avo-bell school of English, Cambridge CELTA-Sofia, Bulgaria. Does anyone out there, know anything about this place. I have been doing my research, but, would like ...

Daejin University Lifelong Education Center -- overandout -- 23 February 2010

I spent a year and a half working at the Daejin University Lifelong Education Center, the language school at Daejin University, from 2008 to 2009. If you have any questions about the program, then ...

Re: Daejin University Lifelong Education Center -- Turnoi -- 23 February 2010

Please feel encouraged to tell your story here; it may be of benefit to other people.

Re: Beware of Jinan's International Volunteers Foreign Teachers of Harmony English Teaching Experime -- Trevor -- 23 February 2010

Unfortunately i was also a sucker to this Tom Pei. This scumbag also wanted money out of me for a finders fee. Fortunately i didnt pay it as i was aware of what he was doing. This guy was a total ...

Jilin Province Educational Exchanges Service Organisation -- Mahoma Iza -- 22 February 2010

This so nice sounding school is the one you should beware the most. They are well known for keeping your passports and using them for illegal activities. The "official" contract has at least 2 ...

Re: Jilin Province Educational Exchanges Service Organisation -- In the know -- 19 March 2010

This school is the new name stated about a year ago for Tian Shou. This school just like others in Jilin Province are very corrupt. There are several schools in Changchun like Tian shou and non of ...

Re: Jilin Province Educational Exchanges Service Organisation -- Turnoi -- 23 February 2010

Yes, it is very true what you say - this disgusting Chinese mafia organisation is well-known for its evil practices, and we have read many complaints about them here, Simply stay away from them, they ...

Language Learning Center Maldives -- Lesya -- 22 February 2010

Language Learning Center, Maldives. They bring people on tourist or business visas (work permit is required by labor department), no medical insurance, delayed payment, blackmail from management, not ...

Re: Beware of Jinan's International Volunteers Foreign Teachers of Harmony English Teaching Experime -- Turnoi -- 21 February 2010

Hi, I do not know whether you may be successful when taking legal action. Things work differently in China than in the West; you might have to invest several thousands of kuai first to pay the ...

Re: Kids Club Fun Languages (a.k.a., Bundang Kids Club) - ESL school review -- Anonymous -- 18 February 2010

I almost signed up at the school and took the job. Thanks to the posting I didn't get into that situation. Thanks!!

Re: WARNING: Abby, recruiter in Hebei, Shijiazhuang - abbytesol@yahoo.com.cn -- anon -- 19 February 2010

I am in Shijiazhuang now and have been put in a 4star hotel because this Abby (real name Xiao Fei) and her associates 'Lily and Victor' failed in every sense to be good agents. I flew from ...

Re: WARNING: Abby, recruiter in Hebei, Shijiazhuang - abbytesol@yahoo.com.cn -- Turnoi -- 19 February 2010

Do I understand you correctly - did they make you come up all the way from Vietnam and that they promised you a job at a uni in China, and there was none when you arrived? If so, then this is ...

Re: Hall of Shame-- Chengdu -- Chengdu CT -- 19 February 2010

Here are a few more to add to the list from Chengdu New Times International Sunny's English More of a recruiter North American ESL They pull the bait and switch. I cannot believe that Meten/Metro ...

Re: Hall of Shame-- Chengdu -- Chengdu FT -- 1 March 2010

Some one asked for more info on North American ESL School. First they offered a friend a contract. Not a bad deal 7-8000 for around 20 hours a week. When he went in to talk to them they gave him a ...

Morning Star Glory Chengdu WARNING -- Chengdu CT -- 19 February 2010

I am not sure if the name is exact or not. This company isn't really a school or training center it is an "education consulting company" that sends uni students overseas. They don't have any ...

Blacklist of crap schools worldwide -- Turnoi -- 18 February 2010

Here is a site with a blacklist of crap schools worldwide, it does not only cover China: http://teflblacklist.blogspot.com/ I hope this will be helpful!

Re: Blacklist of crap schools worldwide -- englishgibson -- 18 February 2010

i wish i could get on that link. would it be possible to post them directly on here as links are at times unreliable in some areas. yes, it also depends on our computers, but mine isn't too bad ...

Re: Cambridge CITC Sudan Teachers Beware!!!!! -- Roland Hannigan -- 17 February 2010

After reading all these comments about CITC Sudan i find it amazing why this school is not closed down. But i suppose with all the corruption that this country has gone through over the years i ...

Re: Cambridge CITC Sudan Teachers Beware!!!!! -- Turnoi -- 17 February 2010

Well, I have not taught there. But as I am writing from Kenya, a neighbouring country to Sudan, my team and me used to go there frequently in connection with some educational projects we are running ...

Re: Cambridge CITC Sudan Teachers Beware!!!!! -- Roland Hannigan -- 17 February 2010

Thanks for your comments Turnoi. We have heard many stories regarding CITC and to be honest they sound not a reliable company to work for. I would like to work in Africa and Kenya as it sounds like a ...

Re: Cambridge CITC Sudan Teachers Beware!!!!! -- Turnoi -- 18 February 2010

Roland, I am the founder (and still the legal owner) of a private, non-profit college project with its main centre in Kenya and that had been founded in 2004. From Kenya, it has expanded to currently ...

Re: Cambridge CITC Sudan Teachers Beware!!!!! -- Teachertrev -- 16 February 2010

Hello Everyone, With having dealings with CITC lately i can truly say that they are the most incompetent people i have ever dealt with and i now truly believe everything that has been written on this ...

Re: Cambridge CITC Sudan Teachers Beware!!!!! -- Teachertrev -- 17 February 2010

I can truly say that what you have written Turnoi is the spot on with truth about CITC they are a waste of time and energy. The agency they use in England i have to say are not that great either. But ...

Re: Guiyang CC English school -- disgruntled -- 15 February 2010

So sorry to hear that you had some of the same pathetic and ignorant attitude problems that i had with CC English School Guiyang, this place is a bad joke. Unfortunately all we can do is tell others ...

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Re: Songyuan Foreign Studies College a.k.a Eastern Star -- Bill Zhang -- 17 February 2010

Once and for all, I want to clarify some rumors surrounding in this site. By the way, I am Bill Zhang the founder and owner of Songyuan Foreign Studies College. Well, my business is still doing well ...

Re: Songyuan Foreign Studies College a.k.a Eastern Star -- TeePee -- 21 February 2010

It is only right the someone should respond to these unbased attacks, as they are purly that of opinion and facts lived by these teachers, as Mahoma states in his brilliantly poignant statement about ...

Emperor of China and triads in Songyuan -- Turnoi -- 22 February 2010

It is incredible to me that this Bill Zhang would go so far as to say that these two teachers are terrorists, this man must have been taught English by some of his teachers, No, next time I think ...

Re: Songyuan Foreign Studies College a.k.a Eastern Star -- Mahoma Iza -- 17 February 2010

OMG!! This is so great. The boss himself. Despite the fact Im not being targeted anymore for a while now, I feel I ought to give a word or two about this, cause Bill, neither Tony nor Justin posted ...

Re: Songyuan Foreign Studies College a.k.a Eastern Star -- Turnoi -- 18 February 2010

I am Bill Zhang the founder and owner of Songyuan Foreign Studies College. Bill Zhang I am the Emperor of China if you are "Bill Zhang". There have been far too many complaints about "your school" ...

Re: Songyuan Foreign Studies College a.k.a Eastern Star -- Mahoma Iza -- 22 February 2010

Hey Turnoi, Im pretty sure this time it is "the boss" talking. You can tell from the big words and bad grammar. And a couple of things about what he said too, 2 of the teachers he mentioned are not ...

Re: Songyuan Foreign Studies College a.k.a Eastern Star -- Turnoi -- 22 February 2010

I am still the Emperor of China, I guess, and this fate will endure, I am afraid...... Whether Bill Zhang or not; it does not change the fact that Songyuan something is a crap place and that there ...

Re: Songyuan Foreign Studies College a.k.a Eastern Star -- Silverboy -- 22 February 2010

Maybe Bill Zhang is related to that other Zhang many of us here know so well. If so, he is to be avoided by all FT's in China!

Re: Songyuan Foreign Studies College a.k.a Eastern Star -- Turnoi -- 22 February 2010

I do not think that Billy Balla Balla Zhang is related to Franky Boy Zhang wangbadan. Franky Boy's Chinglish is unique and can easily be identified to be his; the language used in the (pretend?) ...

Re: Songyuan Foreign Studies College a.k.a Eastern Star -- sam cong -- 15 February 2010

This is so terrible that someone used my name post an untruth message, My name is Sam Cong, My Chinese name is Cong Shaoying, I have been working for Songyuan Foreign Studies College for 3 years, My ...

Re: Songyuan Foreign Studies College a.k.a Eastern Star -- englishgibson -- 16 February 2010

This is so evil and this is a crime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!yes, you are right that sharing experiences/info is sometimes "a crime" in china. lol cheers and beers to the control freaks walking on their ...

I am real Sam Cong, and I have very good school. My staff is very intelligent, too...etc.etc. -- Sam Cong Crocodile (Turnoi) -- 16 February 2010

I am real Sam Cong, this man who say he is Sam Cong is not the real Sam Cong. My school Songyuan Foreign Studies College is excellent and very good school. The teachers is excellent, they even know ...

Re: I am real Sam Cong, and I have very good school. My staff is very intelligent, too...etc.etc. -- Intelligent -- 21 February 2010

I am intelligent, too - at least, I think so........

Re: Songyuan Foreign Studies College a.k.a Eastern Star -- TSH -- 16 February 2010

Your school is crap, all schools in Jilin are rubbish, you are a disgrace!

Re: Songyuan Foreign Studies College a.k.a Eastern Star -- Turnoi -- 16 February 2010

Of course, Songyuan something is crap, but IMHO, it is not a real school but a crappy place of many run by the local triads in this province. Songyuan or whatever - it is a crap and fake place and ...

Re: Songyuan Foreign Studies College a.k.a Eastern Star -- Turnoi -- 16 February 2010

There seem to be many people who hate this "school" which is not a real respectable school but a crappy training centre. I am wondering whether you are the boss of that crappy place. If so, I would ...

Re: Songyuan Foreign Studies College a.k.a Eastern Star -- Mahoma Iza -- 15 February 2010

Well Sam, I guess everybody has their own reasons for hating the school, and a few, I guess, for "loving"it. In both cases, it's not of yours or my business. In this place we post opinions and ...

Re: Songyuan Foreign Studies College a.k.a Eastern Star -- Turnoi -- 16 February 2010

Very true, there are at least two things that you can do to protect yourself against the evil practices of crappy training centres in China: 1. Never come on an L visa, insist on a Z visa instead. 2. ...

Re: Guiyang CC English school -- the applicant -- 12 February 2010

I wish I'd have listened to you disgruntled I've just been messed around by this lying, unorganized, inconsiderate joke of a school. Here's my story... They said I need to go to Guiyang ...

Re: Guiyang CC English school -- Michelle -- 13 February 2010

That suck!!!! How can that f#cking Guiyang CC English school treat you like that!!! I think no foreign teacher will work there anymore. Feels like that school is good at cheating. Maybe they think ...

Re: Guiyang CC English school -- Turnoi -- 13 February 2010

I fully agree that this "school" should be avoided at all costs!

New Dynamic Institute NDI Shanghai -- Bsquared96 -- 11 February 2010

This is an update for any teachers wanting to work for NDI New Dynamic Institute! I signed a contract and read every word of it before doing so. The contract said I would be paid on the 26th of every ...

Re: New Dynamic Institute NDI Shanghai -- Turnoi -- 11 February 2010

Sorry to hear that. Yes, it is a clear breach of the contract. If I were you, I would stop working immediately and wait until you get paid. Then, also tell your class about it. After you got your ...

Srithammarat Suksa Christian School -- James Ryan -- 10 February 2010

Hi, Anyone know anything about Sithammarat Suksa School in Nakorn Si Thammarat Thailand? I read some things on the internet that didn't seem to good, but after emailing to other teachers from ...

Re: Srithammarat Suksa Christian School -- Brent Smith -- 10 March 2010

Hi James, My name is Brent, and I have been teaching at Sri Thammarat Suksa for the past 2.5 years. I have really enjoyed it. The negative reviews you are reading come from one source: a very ...

Re: Andinet International School In Addis -- your conscious -- 6 February 2010

andinet is a really bad school. anyone who defends it, in any way, is being really dishonest, fearful, or allowing themselves to be used by andinet's administration for whatever reasons. this ...

Re: Andinet International School In Addis -- Turnoi -- 6 February 2010

In summary, this is definitely a crappy place to avoid! Don't work for it!

FirstESL - Does anyone know this recruiter -- Sheryl James -- 5 February 2010

Hi Can anyone tell me if they have dealt with this recruiter and if they are actually for real. I'm a US native english speaker looking for my first teaching job abroad. For all intent and ...

Re: FirstESL - Does anyone know this recruiter -- Turnoi -- 6 February 2010

Never heard of this person or company but that does not mean anything; there are many new wonna-be-recruiters popping up each day, so what? There are some general guidelines to estimate recruiters: ...

Jiamei (Hangzhou) - Does anyone know this recruiter -- Casey -- 22 February 2010

Hello, Did anyone hear about or even experience a recruitment through Cherry, a Chinese recruiter, teaching_cherry@yahoo.com.cn, MSN:cherry2009001@msn.cn, Cell: 0086-15157116938, representing JiaMei ...

Re: Hall of Shame -- Wei Jing -- 3 February 2010

silverboy thanks for your great post on the different schools to avoid.I would like to share my experience working in Web International Wuhan branch.I have now left thankfully and i am much happier ...

Re: Hall of Shame -- Chengdu CT -- 19 February 2010

Are you sure this was WEB, sounds identical to Meten/Metro in Chengdu.

Re: Hall of Shame -- Silverboy -- 4 February 2010

Thanks for your kind words Wei Jing. I agree with the following statement of yours: "You have no freedom or creativity to teach your students something worth learning". I could not have put it better ...

Re: Hall of Shame -- Turnoi -- 4 February 2010

TO ALL YOU CRAP SCHOOL OWNERS OUT THERE, MYSELF AND OTHER LIKE MINDED INDIVIDUALS ARE STILL AROUND, WE WILL HUNT YOU DOWN AND DESTROY THE "REPUTATION", OF YOUR SO CALLED "SCHOOLS". This is a promise ...

New Jordan Education Group (all branches) -- Xia -- 3 February 2010

DO NOT WORK FOR THIS COMPANY!!! ~ New Jordan Education Group ~ (Including all branches) I am currently one of many dissatisfied teachers working in China for this company. It has been nothing short ...

Re: New Jordan Education Group (all branches) -- englishgibson -- 5 February 2010

any "educational group" in the name of chinese companies sends warnings. cheers and beers to groups but not in chinese businesses

Beware of Jinan's International Volunteers Foreign Teachers of Harmony English Teaching Experimental - Cindy Zhang aka DanDa, Tom Pei -- Lucy -- 3 February 2010

They Deceive Foreigners. Beware of Jinan's International Volunteers Foreign Teachers of Harmony English Teaching Experimental Reasearch Center Location: Jinan, Shandong Province Better known as ...

Re: Beware of Jinan's International Volunteers Foreign Teachers of Harmony English Teaching Experime -- Hans Fisher -- 6 February 2010

I have several colleagues working in China who have also been severely "burnt" by Tom Pei and this organisation. They specialise in bait-and-switch among others and almost always they recruit for the ...

Re: Beware of Jinan's International Volunteers Foreign Teachers of Harmony English Teaching Experime -- Lucy -- 10 February 2010

Yeah, and at one point we trusted Tom Pei too. Anyways, he supposed left the company and went to college or ...

Re: Beware of Jinan's International Volunteers Foreign Teachers of Harmony English Teaching Experime -- Turnoi -- 7 February 2010

I smell a rat - you are obviously working together with Franky Boy Zhang wangbadan who you pretend to defame here!

Re: Beware of Jinan's International Volunteers Foreign Teachers of Harmony English Teaching Experime -- Turnoi -- 6 February 2010

What a crappy and fake organisation working with false pretences...They really must be deep into the deception business in the crappy Chinese world of ESL! Disgusting!

Re: Beware of Jinan's International Volunteers Foreign Teachers of Harmony English Teaching Experime -- Lucy -- 10 February 2010

Ugh, ...

Re: Beware of Jinan's International Volunteers Foreign Teachers of Harmony English Teaching Experime -- Turnoi -- 10 February 2010

I hope you will have more luck with a decent job next time! Don't give up too fast! Good luck!

Re: Beware of Jinan's International Volunteers Foreign Teachers of Harmony English Teaching Experime -- Turnoi -- 4 February 2010

Why do they have "volunteers" in their name? Volunteers are those who can afford to work for free in a certain long or short term project. The projects are normally non-profit and not businesses like ...

Re: Beware of Jinan's International Volunteers Foreign Teachers of Harmony English Teaching Experime -- Justin -- 4 February 2010

Yes, they do have a website. http://www.xxwhyjs.cn/index.asp They go by this Chinese name, and there are numerous Chinese sites on them. ...

Re: Beware of Jinan's International Volunteers Foreign Teachers of Harmony English Teaching Experime -- Turnoi -- 5 February 2010

山东省现代学校文化研究所 The full Chinese name would read in English like this: "Research Institute of Modern School Culture in ...

Re: Beware of Jinan's International Volunteers Foreign Teachers of Harmony English Teaching Experime -- Lucy & Justin -- 6 February 2010

Thank you all for your kind wishes. All we can do now is WARN　ＯＴＨＥＲＳ Looking back, we should have questioned the "Volunteers" more ...

Re: Beware of Jinan's International Volunteers Foreign Teachers of Harmony English Teaching Experime -- Turnoi -- 8 February 2010

Frank Zhang is a person to be avoided by all means, he is one of China's worst recruiters. There have been many serious complaints about Frank Zhang wangbadan on this board and elsewhere, and I ...

Re: Beware of Jinan's International Volunteers Foreign Teachers of Harmony English Teaching Experime -- Turnoi -- 8 February 2010

As for crappy ESL goes, you should have seen their book. It's a shame the recruiters and the school charge low income (Dong E is a SMALL town type) Chinese 59 RMB for such a crappy and poorly ...

Re: Beware of Jinan's International Volunteers Foreign Teachers of Harmony English Teaching Experime -- Lucy -- 10 February 2010

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Re: Beware of Jinan's International Volunteers Foreign Teachers of Harmony English Teaching Experime -- Turnoi -- 10 February 2010

How disgusting and what a rip-off!!!

Re: Beware of Jinan's International Volunteers Foreign Teachers of Harmony English Teaching Experime -- Lucy -- 4 February 2010

I don't know. You live and you learn, and now unfortunately all I can do is post. Correction, Cindy's screen name is DanDan and their company is also known as Shandong Provisional Modern ...

Re: Beware of Jinan's International Volunteers Foreign Teachers of Harmony English Teaching Experime -- Jamie AKA Xia -- 3 February 2010

It seems to me that this "I'll ask my leader" is a very common excuse as I was given this very same statement many a times. Also, when I was originally recruited I had a "Tom Pei" of my own, who ...

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Re: EF Guangzhou -- CSUWS -- 2 February 2010

It is obvious to me that you are a newbie in China, otherwise you would know to stay well clear of EF, no matter what the location is. I do not know of anyone who has a good thing to say about EF, ...

Re: EF Guangzhou -- Turnoi -- 1 February 2010

I would advise that you do not expect anything much different in the case of EF Guangzhou than what has been said about all the other EF businesses somewhere else. I do not know EF Guangzhou myself ...

Re: EF Guangzhou -- Seeking info -- 2 February 2010

Dear Turnoi Have you actually worked at an EF branch? Do you have first hand experience of the problems you mention? I would be interested in hearing specific examples of the exploitation, poor ...

Re: EF Guangzhou -- Turnoi -- 2 February 2010

Let me reply like this: No, I have never worked for an outfit like EF. I have worked at much better place and have always - perhaps with one exception - held more prestigious employments like ...

Re: EF Guangzhou -- Seeking info -- 3 February 2010

Thanks Turnoi for your comments. Certainly harsh words for someone with no direct experience of working for this company. However, it gives me one side of the story which is useful. Interestingly, I ...

Re: EF Guangzhou -- Oli -- 4 February 2010

I've worked for the Corporate EF in GZ and they are shit.

Re: EF Guangzhou -- Turnoi -- 5 February 2010

I've worked for the Corporate EF in GZ and they are shit. I would expect so.

Re: EF Guangzhou -- englishgibson -- 5 February 2010

The Corporate EF has run its program from Shanghai and EF centers had to sign for it. Most opted not to as it'd destroy their accountants' book keeping. The incompetent managment in charge of ...

Re: EF Guangzhou -- englishgibson -- 3 February 2010

seeking info sounds like fishing info with a fancy rod in murky waters but forgive my observation on. if your fancy fishing rod brand name's different than mine, it doesn't mean i don't ...

Re: Web International Suzhou, China - ESL school review -- AmazedinChina -- 31 January 2010

It seems that this thread was started quite a while ago but still has legs.... I don't know about Suzhou but I do know about Web in Dalian and have a 7 page missive which I will try to post here ...

Re: Web International Suzhou, China - A place NOT to work for! -- Turnoi -- 3 February 2010

No, it is not money that I only want, and I also won't bury my sense of personal dignity - so, I won't work for a crap place like Web. And because it is not money that I only want, and I also ...

Re: Green Oasis School in Shenzhen, China -- hellonwheels -- 31 January 2010

The principal for the school at the moment is a clown. He was a board of director at the school and found himself out of a job once a school in Beijing the board were to open failed. He would have ...

Re: Green Oasis School in Shenzhen, China -- Turnoi -- 3 February 2010

The people running this crap Green Oasis something in Shenzhen have always been clowns; this had never been a good place to work for!

Re: BEWARE GAC-ACT Suzhou/Shanghai -- englishgibson -- 29 January 2010

Robert, i believe many would appreciate if you clear the air on one issue out of your post as, today, i am certain this organization is running a real scam of the century in international ...

Re: GS GIMHAE JADEN"S ESL - ESL school review -- nameless -- 29 January 2010

i worked at GS for a year, recently. Didn't have any problems. Then again, I am a bit of a vicious character and not easily intimidated. Maybe the boss has also learnt from past experience.

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Andrew Dewitte -- 29 January 2010

...I know that there are opportunities for non-white teachers in China. Still, these teachers may face greater difficulties that Whites, in general. For example , I worked at a school where none of ...

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Yingwen Laoshi -- 2 February 2010

I'm sorry to hear about your experience, Andrew. That's not been my experience, though. In all my seven schools in China, there's not been one school where I felt that I gained less ...

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Andrew Dewitte -- 6 February 2010

"Miserable git"...! Whoa! You do a lot of projecting...! My disagreements and dissatisfactions with my employers have never revolved around my quality of teaching.... And, I am sure I have much more ...

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Yingwen Laoshi -- 6 February 2010

I should say whoa to you! Way to go for misunderstanding my reasoning and taking quick offence. I wasn't in anyway insinuating that you were a miserable git. The point I was trying to make was ...

Shane English Yangzhou -- Andrew Dewitte -- 28 January 2010

...I had heard many bad things about the Shane English chain before I worked there, yet I approached them with an open mind. Unfortunately, this appears to be a chain and a franchise that allows many ...

Re: Shane English Yangzhou - a crappy franchise TC! -- Turnoi -- 29 January 2010

Any head offices of franchise crap training centres like Shane or EF in Shanghai do not exist to help their partners provide quality education or to help foreign teachers when they have an issue with ...

Re: Shane English Yangzhou -- Training School Hater -- 28 January 2010

Shane English is crap, and you are right, modern China is full of liars, cheats and crooks. There are some people who think that foreign owned and managed schools are better then Chinese owned ones, ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- yumingjiaoyu -- 26 January 2010

The Notice Of Yuming Education Center Recently, the individual people who owned personal purpose to spread malicious posts to damage the reputation of Yuming education center on the internet, these ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- oneFT -- 28 January 2010

You gotta be kidding!!! Who are you trying to scare? You are full of crap and everyone knows that. If anyone is going to be sued, it's going to be YOU!!!

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Turnoi -- 29 January 2010

You are absolutely right. It is just the lame attempt at threatening fearless people who know what is their good right, and this useless threat has been made by an absolutely stupid and incompetent ...

Useless threat -- Turnoi -- 27 January 2010

Yumingjiaoyu, your threats of legal action against those heavily critisizing your "school" are useless, and many of us including myself are not afraid of it. Do you what a paper tiger is? Now, the ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Ex-TC -- 27 January 2010

Oh no, not the exact same post again! When I sent an email to Yuming suggesting that they explain themselves, they sent back a request that I fully disclose my personal details, including address & ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Turnoi -- 27 January 2010

Ex-TC, the post made by Yumingjiaoyu does not impress me at all; it is ridiculous and childish. I can only laugh about it, and I would only be too happy it it was true that they have seen some ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Silverboy -- 27 January 2010

Yes, Yuming "education center" is a joke, and the threats are childish and stupid. They are just another one of those "stinky fish" you have spoken about in the past. YUMING EDUCATION CENTRE, A PLACE ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Turnoi -- 28 January 2010

Even cats are intelligent enough not to eat up stinky fish!

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Ex-TC -- 28 January 2010

Ladies & Gentlemen, In honour of the Spring festival, that time of year when we can finally complete those lesson plans & long-term goals, I would like to direct you to the first post of my new blog. ...

LCI Kids Club Gwangju, Korea -- Star -- 26 January 2010

I would strongly advise anyone against accepting a position at this school. The school is extremely disorganized and notorious for mistreating and firing employees. All foreign teachers are housed in ...

Re: Nanjing Ahead Education -- Rob -- 25 January 2010

I don't know what happened to you, but I am working for them and I don't see any of these. They are nice and responsible people, and quite professional, too. All other teachers also think so. ...

Re: Nanjing Ahead Education -- Silverboy -- 26 January 2010

Strange that you would reply to a post from one year ago all of a sudden. KIS International, Nanjing Ahead Education, whatever, it has a bad reputation in EFL. As for "having a good reputation in ...

Re: "Nanjing Ahead Education" not ahead in education but in making money -- Turnoi -- 3 February 2010

Nanjing Ahead something is NOT ahead in education; "education" is a word they have never heard about, and they do not know what it means. Instead. Nanjing Ahead something should be rightly called ...

Re: Avoid Yangzhou College of Environment and Resources -- Turnoi -- 25 January 2010

He seemed to be a woman hater. Volsunga It is strange - you happened to know this poster in person, and I came to a very similar conclusion by certain parts of the posts made by that person and the ...

Re: Avoid Yangzhou College of Environment and Resources -- Silverboy -- 25 January 2010

That guy sounds like a total idiot! Seems that he is a snivelling weasel who should get a job at a training centre. This person and others like him should not be working at ANY university in China. ...

Re: Avoid Yangzhou College of Environment and Resources -- Turnoi -- 25 January 2010

And I do not like to change my crocodile look; every foreigner in China has a total right to his own identity, even in China...lol.

Re: Avoid Yangzhou College of Environment and Resources -- Turnoi -- 24 January 2010

Judging by the derogatory posts regarding members of the female sex, mostly made in a kind of stumbling German on this board, I can fully understand that many at that school - especially the FAO and ...

EF English First Zhuhai -- A former DOS -- 23 January 2010

New Foreign Teachers should be aware of the EF English First Group, in particular their Zhuhai franchise training centre. This is not a situation of sour grapes as I was able to complete my contract ...

Re: EF English First Zhuhai -- englishgibson -- 29 January 2010

Dear former EF DoS, I have had quite similar experiences with a couple of other EF centers on mainland and I have dealt with an EF Zhuhai DoS in 2003-2004. Then, EF Zhuhai was owned by a Hong Kong ...

Re: EF English First Zhuhai - my comment on franchise head offices in Shanghai -- Turnoi -- 30 January 2010

http://www.eslteachersboard.com/cgi-bin/review/index.pl?read=28771

Re: EF English First Zhuhai -- Deb -- 26 January 2010

How bad is the school in Zhuhai? Can you be more specific about the issues with that particular school? I am looking for a school to teach at and EF is one of the options I'm looking at. Do you ...

Re: EF English First Zhuhai -- Turnoi -- 24 January 2010

Thank you for your very enlightening report regarding EF Zhuhai. It is a true illustration of what others have said before in their criticism of the crappy EF franchise in China elsewhere. There have ...

Re: Witty International English / Tianjin and Jokes -- still in this city -- 22 January 2010

everything you have all written is true.mangement is a joke. course and teaching material-joke.. we are asked to respect the culture which we did,,but are western culture is completely disregarded, ...

Re: BLACK LIST SHIJIAZHUANG, HEBEI, PRC. - ESL school review -- Alan -- 19 January 2010

Joe, Even if you get it in writing that does not mean the school will follow the contract. In China, most contracts are meaningless. My friend won a case at the FAO of our city but there was no ...

Re: Meten/Metro Chongqing China -- Dr. Laurence J. MacDonald PhD -- 16 January 2010

Be very careful with Meten, I worked for them for almost two years both in Chongqing and in shenzhen. In Shenzhen, four teachers were arrested because Meten had procurred our visa's in Chongqing ...

Re: Meten/Metro Chongqing China -- Mr Popularity, hip-hop boy, Nanning -- 17 January 2010

Whilst I agree with you that Meten is total crap, do you really have to tell people that you were selected as "teacher of the year?" You may need to tone down that ego a bit. Why are you working at ...

Re: Meten/Metro Chongqing China -- axemenbasketball@hotmail.com -- 18 January 2010

First of all, I see no reason why I should have to answer to you my young hip hop friend. I am a retired university professor and basketball coach that was not ready to retire so i came to china. As ...

Re: Meten/Metro Chongqing China -- Turnoi -- 19 January 2010

Laurence, this week I will have my 60th birthday, so I would call myself "semi-retired", and I am also a former university professor as well with all that degree stuff. For many people around here ...

Re: Meten/Metro Chongqing China -- Nanning hip-hop boy, Mr Popularity -- 19 January 2010

In fact Laurence, I am a 41 year old Australian guy who is well known in the ESL world for causing grief to crap school owners, not just on this board, but face to face. I left very obvious clues as ...

Re: Meten/Metro Chongqing China -- Turnoi -- 17 January 2010

According to Chinese law, visas (at least Z visas) are only valid in the province where they had been procured. Transfer of a visa from province z to another province y is normally not possible. If a ...

Re: The School of Life, Amman, Jordan - ESL school review -- Pregnant -- 15 January 2010

Very interesting posts on School of Life. I am in agreement with the above post. My experience was initially very good. From the beginning my work received high praise. I was a dedicated and ...

Re: The School of Life, Amman, Jordan - ESL school review -- Turnoi -- 16 January 2010

"School of Life"? He, what's that? Shouldn't it be "School of Horror"?

Re: Hampson English-Hangzhou -- Spanky -- 15 January 2010

I was just offered a similar contract at the Hampson in Guangzhou today. It must be their standard contract in China. I tried to explain that withholding wages, especially on a PT contract where no ...

Re: Esl Resource Group/ ERG -- Greyson -- 14 January 2010

Hey there, did you ever receive further information about esl resource group because they contacted me as well. I'd rather not get involved with something that has the appearance of a scam, ...

Shi Da (Fujian Normal univrsity) -- anonymous. -- 14 January 2010

General warning for teaching at Fujian Normal University. I worked for Fujian Normal University for one year teaching English. I for filled all my work requirements. I had no issues with the school. ...

Re: Shi Da (Fujian Normal univrsity) -- Turnoi -- 15 January 2010

You would not be the first one to be cheated by your former employer when it comes up to paying your bonus and air flight reimbursement at the end of a successfully completed contract period. ...

Re: I.E.C. Medan, Indonesia -- Gunawan Chandra -- 14 January 2010

Hey there rory, it's great to find you floating again!! What a great review on IEC there you've written. And since I am actually mentioned in there (the guy who is a chinese but never uses ...

Re: I.E.C. Medan, Indonesia -- Rory Smyth -- 26 February 2010

Well first of all Gunawan, hope you had a Chun Jie Kuai le (Happy Chinese New Year) and I mean that ....To your letter, that was a review written by me about your school, IEC to inform other teachers ...

Lingdong school Foshan -- Jason -- 14 January 2010

I have read the reviews and I quite suprised that ths school is still around and it sounds like has not changed since I worked there 3 or more years ago.I have pay problems, the didn't tell me ...

Re: Lingdong school Foshan -- englishgibson -- 29 January 2010

Jason, beep a dead rat in the air con. This school is sh*t for many other much more valid reasons than that. The school has copied the western adult and kids books and then put its own cover on it, ...

Re: Lingdong school Foshan -- Angry Ex-teacher -- 25 February 2010

Review of Lingdong School Lingdong School in Foshan China should definitely be avoided. Don't work there! The previous reviews about Lingdong are too nice. I was not given a proper visa (because ...

Re: Lingdong school Foshan -- happygolucky -- 31 January 2010

Hey I couldn't agree with you more. The rats are the least of the problems there. The manager in Nanhai is terrible her managment style or lack there of and her lack of English was frustrating ...

Re: Lingdong school Foshan - comment on "rats" -- Turnoi -- 31 January 2010

In the traditional Chinese calender system, there are "years of the rat" like 1934, 1946, 2008, etc.. In this system, rats are know for having high demands and expectations on other people, they are ...

Re: Lingdong school Foshan -- CSUWS -- 30 January 2010

Yeah, seems that it is a really crap place, and not just because of the rats!

Re: Witty International English / Tianjin and Jokes -- gkertgl -- 13 January 2010

I have been contacted by Witty to "fill in" when their full time teacher isn't available. Should I be worried? Anyway, I've been in Tianjin for a while and I still haven't seen a nice ...

Re: Witty International English / Tianjin and Jokes -- Chengdu CT -- 19 February 2010

It sounds like you will only be working part time or temporarily for them. My advice is ask for your money up front. If they won't agree take a walk and find something else. I recently meet some ...

Re: Witty International English / Tianjin and Jokes -- Silverboy -- 13 January 2010

You really hit the nail on the head with that one! Yes, greedy and stupid Chinese people ( and arrogant greedy and stupid laowai ) who open "schools" in China only care about money, their lack of ...

Crappy Witty International English - How to recognise grovelling weasels! -- Turnoi -- 14 January 2010

Yes, the contract terms offered to gtk are a joke, and I would urgently advise not to sign the contract! Yes, greedy and stupid Chinese people ( and arrogant greedy and stupid laowai ) who open ...

LINGDONG FOSHAN CHINA -- unhappy LD teacher -- 13 January 2010

I too worked at Lingdong Foshan and I must say your review was pretty flattering. I had trouble with my pay, my visa and my apartment I also was quite upset by the amount of lies they told too. The ...

Re: Web International Suzhou, China - ESL school review -- Chengdu FT -- 13 January 2010

Finally a use for crappy training schools. Temporary jobs until something better comes along!

Total elimination of crappy TCs urgently needed! -- Turnoi -- 16 January 2010

Crappy training centres are even not good enough for temporary jobs. There is only one placed where crappy training centres belong - that is the rubbish bin of history by way of their total ...

Re: Foshan Lingdong - ESL school review -- unhappy LD teacher -- 13 January 2010

I too worked at Lingdong Foshan and I must say your review was pretty flattering. I had trouble with my pay, my visa and my apartment I also was quite upset by the amount of lies they told too. The ...

Another Scam Recruiter TEFL JOBS WORLD - tefljobsworld.com -- JJ -- 11 January 2010

- http://tefljobsworld.com/index.php - TEFL JOBS WORLD - This 'recruiter' sent me an email advertising themselves as a resource for teachers looking for jobs. However the web site is ...

Re: Another Scam Recruiter TEFL JOBS WORLD - tefljobsworld.com -- Swerky -- 3 February 2010

I got scammed by tefljobsworld.com. I paid a $29 fee (reduced from $75 on promotion) (huh!!) to gain access to their premium area for teachers, as they promised me a job in Malaga, but all they did ...

Spelling -- Sue -- 19 January 2010

You're a teacher and can't tell the difference between there and their? Really? After reading your post I'm more inclined to believe the company had reason to lose interest in you.

Re: Spelling -- Turnoi -- 19 January 2010

Your response on spelling to that poster comes across a bit as nitpicking...... Perhaps, it is a typo, and if not, it is the same what I have seen so often in spelling errors by native English ...

Re: Another Scam Recruiter TEFL JOBS WORLD - tefljobsworld.com -- Carla -- 18 January 2010

Well, the job board on their website is free of charge and they never asked me for a dime. The only thing they are charging for is the premium service I believe.. which is fair enough for what I got ...

TEFLJobsWorld.com .. excellent TEFL course -- Betty Fainhurst -- 8 February 2010

I have only good stuff to tell about their site. I finished their TEFL course ans they found me job in Italy. There is some others who offer similar service but none of them for the same pricing. ...

Re: TEFLJobsWorld.com .. excellent TEFL course -- Turnoi -- 10 February 2010

The problem with those posts in favour of a business is that we as discerning readers cannot be sure if you you are a real graduate of their course or whether you are only one of their lackeys ...

What about a "robbing profession"? -- Turnoi -- 10 January 2010

The best teachers (in my experience) are those who are happy and patient individuals, and ready to 'give' - after all, teaching is a 'giving' profession! Yes, real decent teachers ...

Re: What about a "robbing profession"? -- been there -- 22 January 2010

to all those people who complain that they have not received monies owed,, we may be in a diffrent country,but the law is the law... if your employer refuses to give what is owed-contact your ...

Walton School of Foreign Lnguages. -- Marc -- 10 January 2010

As some are aware that there are some very negative reports on this and other websites that bring the name of our school into disrepute.I will not deny, that like many other ESL training schols ...

Re: Walton School of Foreign Lnguages. -- Turnoi -- 10 January 2010

As some are aware that there are some very negative reports on this and other websites that bring the name of our school into disrepute. Walton is a "school"? No, it is a training centre, and that is ...

Re: Walton School of Foreign Lnguages. -- Silverboy -- 10 January 2010

Marc, if you want to give yourself some credibility here you should refrain from talking about that "cultural differences" and "communication problem" BS that is so often spouted forth by training ...

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- BillyBloggs -- 10 January 2010

Yes, there are employment opportunities in China for black and brown people. My own school currently employs several off-white teachers. Other schools are different. There is racism in China, just as ...

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Yingwen Laoshi -- 10 January 2010

Like it or lump it! Er... did you properly read my original post, or is good reading comprehension not one of your strong suits?

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- BillyBloggs -- 11 January 2010

I wasn't necessarily agreeing or disagreeing with your post, merely offering my own two cents worth. If it is in the interests of a school to hire, or not hire, non-white teachers, they will go ...

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Turnoi -- 10 January 2010

Yingwen Laoshi, I should perhaps offer to translate your post into Chinese to help the poster you addressed understand what you have said....LOL

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Silverboy -- 10 January 2010

So now you are an apologist for Chinese racism? Typical, that is what I would expect from a grovelling weasel , corporate lackey and China school apologist like yourself!

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- BillyBloggs -- 11 January 2010

So now you are an apologist for Chinese racism? Typical, that is what I would expect from a grovelling weasel , corporate lackey and China school apologist like yourself! I see! No room for moderate ...

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Turnoi -- 12 January 2010

You blokes all reckon that China should be just like home. It's not!...and never will be. Get over it! In suggesting that China should introduce strict anti-discrimination laws, the "blokes" you ...

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- BillyBloggs -- 12 January 2010

In suggesting that China should introduce strict anti-discrimination laws, the "blokes" you mention are the truly enlightened ones, Suggest all you like. You would be wasting your breath. You blokes ...

Re: Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Goldengirl -- 11 January 2010

Racist it may be, but what you gonna do about it? Sue them?? You blokes all reckon that China should be just like home. It's not!...and never will be. Get over it! Just like home? Are you ...

Re: Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Silverboy -- 11 January 2010

Yes Goldengirl, there is nothing wrong with different posters highlighting aspects of life in China which they find objectionable. I have always been opposed to racism, and China would be a much ...

Re: Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- BillyBloggs -- 11 January 2010

It means they are providing their take on what they find disagreeable in the course of their lives here in China. I find many things "disagreeable" here in China, but I don't bitch and moan about ...

Re:Ltd Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Goldengirl -- 12 January 2010

It means they are providing their take on what they find disagreeable in the course of their lives here in China. I find many things "disagreeable" here in China, but I don't bitch and moan about ...

Re:Ltd Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- BillyBloggs -- 12 January 2010

Well, well, well, BB! Aren't you bitching and moaning about laowai bitching and moaning about what they find disagreeable in China? Seems that you're at least as big a bitcher and moaner as ...

Re:Ltd Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Turnoi -- 12 January 2010

No, boycott such "schools" and refuse to work for them. Simple!

Re: Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Silverboy -- 12 January 2010

FYI Bloggs, I have never expected anyone to give me everything on a silver platter. Nothing has been given to me on a platter, I had to work for all the money I have made in my life. Posters that ...

Re: Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- BillyBloggs -- 12 January 2010

I wonder if you have ever challenged a crap school owner and tried to close down his/her school, or tried to publicly humiliate that person and ruin the reputation of the school. I am willing to bet ...

Re: Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- EFL teacher -- 13 January 2010

Well here is some constructive criticism for you....the word is criticising! A poster had posted the incorrect word 'critisizing' in his post, post deleted since. Consequently, BillyBloggs ...

Re: Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Turnoi -- 14 January 2010

How does the wrong spelling of a word to the topic of this thread? Nothing better to do than nitpicking? Very typical of someone like you, pretend Native Son, or whoever you are! And before you make ...

Re: Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- EFL teacher -- 14 January 2010

If it comes to correction of spelling, then you have also overlooked that criticizing is a wrong spelling anyway - Mr Turnoi, I beg to differ - the above spelling is correct! ...

Re: Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Turnoi -- 15 January 2010

It seems that you are unaware of the linguistic criteria underlying this issue: I very often do not have the time to look for spelling problems in my posts, and in addition I have a problem with my ...

Re: Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Critter -- 14 January 2010

critisizing is correct if you are measuring a critter. Although it may not be found in the dictionary, it is a southern term in the U.S.A. used to describe the size of a critter when ordinary ...

Re: Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Crittersizer -- 14 January 2010

critisizing is correct if you are measuring a critter. Although it may not be found in the dictionary, it is a southern term in the U.S.A. used to describe the size of a critter when ordinary ...

Re: Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- T Morrison -- 12 January 2010

Another excellent post, Silverboy. You are selfless whenever you give all of us the benefit of your experiences gained while teaching and living in China, not just the good, but also the bad. ...

Re: Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Turnoi -- 12 January 2010

I fully second your post.

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Turnoi -- 10 January 2010

If a "school" has the freedom to hire or not to hire a non-"white" person and if it does not hire a person because of colour of skin in disregard of qualifications, then this is "racist". The answer ...

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Silverboy -- 10 January 2010

Yes Turnoi, China urgently needs very strong anti-discrimination laws like those that exist in the EU, Australia, Canada, and other nations. Reform is also very badly needed in regard to animal ...

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Turnoi -- 10 January 2010

I absolutely agree 100 %!

Re: Web International Suzhou, China - ESL school review -- BillyBloggs -- 10 January 2010

If I was to give some slack to the teachers involved, I could say that the unfamiliarity of their new surroundings (in China) may have caused their hyper-defensive and critical and attacking ...

Re: Web International Suzhou, China - ESL school review -- englishgibson -- 14 January 2010

James has assisted the filthy Chinese employers as well as I have before. So, both of us are guilty of helping the crooks open/operate their centers, impose their own will on customers as well as ...

Re: Web International Suzhou, China - ESL school review -- englishgibson -- 9 January 2010

James, let me agree as well as disagree with you. You've helped the Chinese investors and all that wish to learn English which is just great. Also, you've provided some reasons why some ...

Re: Green Oasis Crap School messing up foreign teachers' visa status and leaving them alone! -- Turnoi -- 8 January 2010

p.s.-please please apply there it is an excellent school. No, I would not apply - not only because of the negative comments from former foreign teachers whose visa status had been messed up by the ...

looking -- Ross -- 8 January 2010

hi I am looking at teaching in China and I was wondering if anyone could suggest any recruiters to me that they have had good experiences with. I am currently in the states so I am looking at ...

I would recommend Franky Boy Zhang wangbadan!.....LOL -- Turnoi -- 8 January 2010

I would urgently advise not to use any recruiters at all; most, if not all, of them are scumbags. But if you ask for it, I would highly recommend Franky Boy Zhang wangbadan, China's most infamous ...

Re: TIANSHUO, CHANGCHUN, JILIN PROVINCE, -- cindy -- 7 January 2010

i've been reading the posted blogs regarding the said company and i myself agree with evrybody except johan's blog that are all lies.i worked in the same company like them. working in the ...

Re: Green Oasis School in Shenzhen, China -- Turino -- 7 January 2010

This is a board for ESL and EFL teachers.As such,it is of great interest and use to those seeking teaching posts. As a foreign teacher of English in China,my main interest,call me selfish if you ...

Re: Oxford Centre / Bielsko Biala, Poland -- Rebecca -- 6 January 2010

I am a current native-english teacher at oxford center in Bielsko, Poland and was working there when all this "HYPED-UP drama" took place. The original opinion of course was rather one-sided and the ...

Shandong Oral English Center -- Cmking -- 6 January 2010

hi has anyone heard of a school called Shandong Oral English Center. Ive been in contact with a guy who goes by the name of "Jerry Smith" the e-mail is ...

Re: Shandong Oral English Center -- Clair -- 22 January 2010

I know a littile about the company. It seems that their contract is not worth the paper it is written on.

Re: Green Oasis School in Shenzhen, China -- Maria -- 5 January 2010

Look now Silverboy, stop talking nonsense!You know people like you only know how to criticize so this normal world is not the place for you, I am sure!First of all you dont know the school at all!So ...

Re: Green Oasis School in Shenzhen, China -- Lie Detector -- 6 January 2010

Wow, strange that you took 9 months to reply to the post of SB "Maria". The subject of GOS comes up again and suddenly you happen to crop up also replying to a post from APRIL 2009! How convienient! ...

Re: Green Oasis School in Shenzhen, China -- BillyBloggs -- 6 January 2010

Ah, Maria. Nonsense is Sliverbaby's middle name. It's all he can do. BTW, I believe he now calls himself "Supercat".

Re: Green Oasis School in Shenzhen, China -- Turnoi -- 6 January 2010

Nobody knows who "Maria" is. She is certainly not the Holy Virgin some people are used to believe in but an employee of that crap Oasis something asked to post here in their favour. That's a ...

Re: Green Oasis School in Shenzhen, China -- Turnoi -- 6 January 2010

So just shut up! I wish you did the same and refrain from posting in favour of a "school" without saying who you are. Do not advertise without saying that you are actually advertising; anything else ...

Re: Green Oasis School in Shenzhen, China -- Unearther -- 6 January 2010

ESLSCHOOLREVIEW.COM Posts 295 Green Oasis School, Shenzen China 04 NEGATIVE REVIEWS (2008) 06 NEGATIVE REVIEWS (2007) 02 NEGATIVE REVIEWS (2006) COMMENTS: (Spidered) I was just waiting for the ...

Re: Green Oasis School in Shenzhen, China -- Turnoi -- 6 January 2010

It's quite funny that the pretend Holy Virgin Maria failed to respond in detail to that complaint which in its original is at the beginning of this thread. It's always the same pattern - once ...

Re: Green Oasis School in Shenzhen, China -- Turnoi -- 5 January 2010

That "school" can't be very good if it is teaching you that kind of "GOS...ROCK!!!!!!!!" stuff. It comes across as if there was someone totally stoned from an Open Air Concert with Heavy Metal ...

Re: Oxford Centre / Bielsko Biala, Poland -- Rebecca -- 5 January 2010

I am a current native-english teacher at oxford center in Bielsko, Poland and was working there when all this "HYPED-UP drama" took place. The original opinion of course was rather one-sided and the ...

Re: Oxford Centre / Bielsko Biala, Poland -- Turnoi -- 5 January 2010

For your information, Rebecca, I think I am not the person you want to address in your post. I have not said anything negative about that school in Bielsko Biala nor have I ever worked there. In ...

Re: Oxford Centre / Bielsko Biala, Poland -- Rebecca -- 6 January 2010

NOpe, Turnoi...this e-mail was not intended for you. It was a reply to the original messages written by James Chambers and Chris Mulhall. SOrry you got the wrong idea there. P.S. I am not American ...

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- niketa -- 5 January 2010

I read your post and I can honestly say that made me SO MUCH happier! I have been looking for jobs in china for the past month and have been getting no replies. I had checked my cv countless times ...

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Yingwen Laoshi -- 6 January 2010

I'm glad to hear that you're feeling happier. To update, I advise you to always send an up to date photo of yourself with your application (I always do this). I believe in letting potential ...

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- niketa -- 26 January 2010

I have managed to land a job with English First in Hangzhou. . .my visa is being processed at the moment. Am happy (really really really happy!), but I cant stop thinking "will the visa go through" ...

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Yingwen Laoshi -- 31 January 2010

That's good news Niketa! Tread carefully. Keep your wits about you, but most importantly, enjoy! All the best!

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- The Optimist -- 7 January 2010

There are many jobs available for black FT's, try the second tier uni's in central Chinese cities like Wuhan, Nanning, Changsha, Chengdu, Kunming, the discrimination is much less than at the ...

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Hot Chocolate -- 7 January 2010

Yes, we should realize that employers are bosses, and because they are paying our salaries, don't deserve to be cheated by us providing mis or non-information for our own selfish reasons, viz to ...

Er!...Come Again? -- Yingwen Laoshi -- 7 January 2010

Would you mind explaining please?

Re: Er!...Come Again? -- Turnoi -- 8 January 2010

Yingwen Laoshi, who is an English teacher, isn't it easy to understand the text on its own merits? It is full of irony and sarcasm and a persiflage of a one-sided pro-employer's crap ideology ...

Re: Er!...Come Again? -- Yingwen Laoshi -- 8 January 2010

I know they're being sarcastic, Turnoi. I couldn't understand, though, what it had to do with the topic, which is about whether it's possible for black teachers to gain employment in ...

Re: Er!...Come Again? -- Turnoi -- 9 January 2010

OK, perhaps you should have said so in your last post. However, I think, there is an implication: Normally, it is not an employer's job to judge the suitability of a job candidate on grounds of ...

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Turnoi -- 7 January 2010

And may be, we should also kiss a certain part of their backside when they ask for it...LOL.

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Ebony -- 7 January 2010

I believe in letting potential employers know my skin colour as soon as possible to avoid problems further down the line. I do the opposite, to let them have as many problems as possible with me if ...

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Yingwen Laoshi -- 8 January 2010

I believe in letting potential employers know my skin colour as soon as possible to avoid problems further down the line. I do the opposite, to let them have as many problems as possible with me if ...

Re: Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Ebony -- 9 January 2010

You won't stop racism by being compliant to those employers who aren't racist. I don't understand this point. My point is that those employers who aren't racist are not the problem. ...

Re: Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Yingwen Laoshi -- 9 January 2010

Well said. The problem is most employers in China require a photo. Also, not sending a photo in advance has lead to some black teachers being refused when they arrive to start work. I send a photo ...

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Marcus -- 9 January 2010

"Avoiding problems down the line", that can be a big problem! Some Chinese bosses in the field of education are not averse to using a scapegoat to get rid of an FT he(or she) dislikes, maybe due to ...

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Turino -- 9 January 2010

First of all,make sure that any contract you have signed is the official SAFEA one.Then,if an employer wants to get rid of you mid-contract,he will find it very difficult to do so,by using a ...

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Goldengirl -- 9 January 2010

Good advice, and I'd add that wily employers who try to add clauses re probationary periods and/or that x% of your students should like your lessons at a certain point in time, usually 4 or 6 ...

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Turnoi -- 8 January 2010

My heart tells me that is the right way to approach racist employers. On the other hand, my brain tells me that you may not be successful when looking for a job. Where is the solution then?

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- CSUWS ( Crap School and Uni Warning System) -- 7 January 2010

I agree Ebony, if you start working for a Chinese school or university and you discover said school is racist and/or corruption is taking place there, then it is the responsibility of an FT to cause ...

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Turnoi -- 5 January 2010

Good look in your job search efforts. Perhaps, you try a state-run school (uni, college, or middle school) if you have got the appropriate qualifications and some previous experience of teaching in ...

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- niketa -- 8 January 2010

I have recently visited china.I have a BA Hons and TESOL certificate. . . .Do not have teaching experience in China, but I have some under my belt here in England (private tutoring and working for a ...

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- CSUWS -- 5 January 2010

That is good advice Turnoi, as you know the TC's only want white monkeys to take part in one of those muppet shows you have talked about before. A decent university in China will happily employ a ...

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- name11 -- 9 January 2010

Just wanted to jump in on this topic, being an African American English teacher in China... I have to say that it IS rough to find a job because of race for the most part. I guess I got lucky finding ...

Re: Green Oasis School in Shenzhen, China -- Green Oasis School is still the best! -- 5 January 2010

I didnt mean to threaten you, I just said that this school's pretty good and you will have to take back your words after u actually visit this school(which I know you haven't yet, cuz if u ...

Re: Green Oasis School in Shenzhen, China -- CSUWS ( Crap School and Uni Warning System ) -- 5 January 2010

I doubt very much that Green Oasis School has improved at all. It was a crap school last year and in 2008, just look at all the nagative reviews your "school" has recieved. Leapords don't change ...

Re: Green Oasis School in Shenzhen, China -- Spanky -- 7 January 2010

Having never been involved in the situation I cannot personally judge. There are, however, some telltale signs which, IMHO, cast serious doubts on Green Oasis's credibility. These include the ...

Re: Green Oasis School in Shenzhen, China -- Turnoi -- 7 January 2010

Even if the accusations are not substantiable, would you risk the very real possibility that it, or any other problems arising from the terpitude of these ubiquitous leeches, may happen to you, at ...

Foreign teachers are no slaves of crappy Chinese TC bosses and their lackeys! -- Turnoi -- 5 January 2010

I think you are wrong in saying that the Turino poster is only there to "critisize the good". First, it is a logical fallacy to assume per se that Green Oasis something in Shenzhen is "good". What is ...

Re: Foreign teachers are no slaves of crappy Chinese TC bosses and their lackeys! -- Hello! -- 5 January 2010

Hello!Why do you even care to spend so much time writing absolutely nonsense about the school and actually reading all the crap about the school?I mean I bet you have other BETTER stuff to do then ...

Re: Foreign teachers are no slaves of crappy Chinese TC bosses and their lackeys! -- Training School Hater! -- 6 January 2010

You must really think that some of the long term posters here are naive and stupid! I can spot people like you,a mile off, corporate lackeys and grovelling snivelling weasels! I was almost rolling ...

Re: Foreign teachers are no slaves of crappy Chinese TC bosses and their lackeys! -- Anonymous -- 7 January 2010

Hmm...I think it doesn't really matter what you think of the school, because well, people care about their kids having good education, and that's what that school provides. All this nonsense ...

Sentence and Text Structure in terms of coherency -- Turnoi -- 8 January 2010

Hmm...I think it doesn't really matter what you think of the school, because well, people care about their kids having good education, and that's what that school provides. All this nonsense ...

Re: Foreign teachers are no slaves of crappy Chinese TC bosses and their lackeys! -- TSH -- 7 January 2010

Yes, you are right, Chinese parents will probably send their little darlings to a garbage school like Green Oasis. Most Chinese parents are quite naive and stupid, they WOULD NOT KNOW what quality ...

Snivelling weasels in action! -- Turnoi -- 8 January 2010

Another one of those snivelling weasals that SB, Turnoi and Turino have spoken of here many times. Whow, great to see that this endangered species of snivelling weasels still exists and has not ...

Re: Snivelling weasels in action! -- Seriously PEOPLE! -- 10 January 2010

Hi everyone, I have been reading this "fight" ,you may call it, for quite a few days. I have read almost all the reviews by now, and believe me, this totally sounds like a fight!I mean really, people ...

Re: Snivelling weasels in attack mode! -- TakenAback -- 11 January 2010

Many foreign teachers in China are distrustful of each other. They find it difficult to get along with one another, and do not make an effort to do so. Whenever they have differing views, they will ...

Re: Snivelling weasels in attack mode! -- Ken -- 19 January 2010

What? Chinese overseas work together and cooperate?. are you joking tell me you are joking... Chinese are THE most divided people on earth and we consider each other to be enemies. Huo Yujiana (Fong ...

How sad -- cunning linguist -- 20 January 2010

Ken, I find it very sad that you have to hide your nationality in the UK. I'm not sure if you are British-born Chinese (BBC), as you say your family moved in the 1960's, but it has been ...

Re: How sad -- Turnoi -- 20 January 2010

I have experienced Chinese people behaving differently abroad and at home. Abroad, they are normally more hesitant to attract public attention, are normally more or less well integrated into the ...

Re: Snivelling weasels in attack mode! -- Turnoi -- 12 January 2010

Yes, and the species of snivelling weasels still exists, and may it be so forever to make us laugh. Amen....LOL.

Re: Snivelling weasels in action! -- Turnoi -- 10 January 2010

In a way all of those messages sounded like World War 3!!!LOL! At the age of 18, you have all the right to exaggerate - but really, it is not like World War 3 and a bit less dramatic than that. I do ...

Re: Snivelling weasels in action! -- Seriously PEOPLE! -- 18 January 2010

I guess so...Anyways, dont you think that calling people that is rude?Maybe not to you, but if somebody else saw it they would consider it rude probably because they wont read the whole thread to ...

Re: Snivelling weasels in action! -- Turnoi -- 19 January 2010

The tone among certain people here on the board was much ruder some time ago. Compared with the tone we have had before, the general tone became quite civilized. These days, such terms as ...

Re: Foreign teachers are no slaves of crappy Chinese TC bosses and their lackeys! -- Turnoi -- 8 January 2010

I would not care either. But what you say is true to some extent: Parents who want their kids to have a good education very often do not know the real criteria of what a "good" school is. The school ...

Re: Foreign teachers are no slaves of crappy Chinese TC bosses and their lackeys! -- Turino -- 8 January 2010

I know the first people who would write a negative comment on this, Turino and Silverboy. But I dont care, so, yea... Actually,what teachers think of schools is a very important matter for ...

Why did not he/she not "honour" me in including me?...LOL -- Turnoi -- 8 January 2010

Well said, Turino! I am a bit concerned that the ANONYMOUS poster has not included my unimportant person when mentioning SB and you. I hoped I have not declined in "popularity" in that respect... My ...

Re: Foreign teachers are no slaves of crappy Chinese TC bosses and their lackeys! -- Marble Arch -- 6 January 2010

The HELLO poster is a nice fake story teller, and it is obvious that he has a hidden agenda in posting in favor of that crap school by pretending to be someone else. It's something we have seen ...

Re: Foreign teachers are no slaves of crappy Chinese TC bosses and their lackeys! -- Turnoi -- 6 January 2010

Hello!Why do you even care to spend so much time writing absolutely nonsense about the school and actually reading all the crap about the school?I mean I bet you have other BETTER stuff to do then ...

Re: Foreign teachers are no slaves of crappy Chinese TC bosses and their lackeys! -- Put the boot in! -- 6 January 2010

Bravo Turnoi, I hope you shall continue with your criticism of crappy training centres in China. It is time to put the boot into woeful "schools" like the disgusting Green Oasis in Shenzhen!

Re: Foreign teachers are no slaves of crappy Chinese TC bosses and their lackeys! -- Danikol -- 6 January 2010

I might be applying to the school, cuz now I think that school is pretty good and all the negative reviews are lies. A school is as good as its teachers and leadership are. If you really apply for a ...

Re: Green Oasis School in Shenzhen, China -- Turino -- 5 January 2010

Originally,at least one foreign teacher posted a critical account as to how she had been mistreated and lied to while teaching at your school. Then someone who was Chinese,judging by the somewhat ...

Leshan Normal University -- Kurt -- 4 January 2010

Happy New Year to all and thanks for the responses I've gotten from my inquiries. Does anyone have any experience with or know anything about this university?

Re: Leshan Normal University -- Cowardly Custard -- 4 January 2010

My grandmother and aunts live in Leshan. They are okay thank god/Buddha/Allah but are expectedly frazzled by the quakes. Their apartment building was shaking and spent the day and night elsewhere and ...

Re: Can anyone recommend recruiter 'Henry' ? -- scott -- 1 January 2010

Well there are two Henry... one is WonJUMPING or called as ZhangPING.. in Beijing now not in Beijing...who recruits teachers put them into school let the school pay him.. and if there is trouble... ...

Dubai, Premier Center -- mckayzol -- 1 January 2010

Is it real or a scam??? Employer: Hakeem Ammar[Human Resource Manager] PREMIER LANGUAGE CENTER 16 Al Barsha Street, Dubai,United Arab Emirates. Tel:+971-04-5015897 Mobile:+971-501874916 ...

Re: Dubai, Premier Center -- Anna -- 19 January 2010

I sent my passport copy to Premier Language Center before reading this forum, and just thought I'd share the email exchange with I had them. It definitely seems like a scam of some sort (and even ...

Re: Dubai, Premier Center -- Sam -- 3 February 2010

Can anyone confirm this is a scam? I've already sent my Passport and resume (which had a lot of personal information including my Identity number). I got the e-mail that says I was short-listed ...

Re: Dubai, Premier Center - SCAM -- Clarence w -- 6 January 2010

This is a passport Scam. This is a passport scam. They're based in Nigeria collecting ID clones. DON'T send them any personal details High Salary based on education qualifications and ...

Re: Dubai, Premier Center - SCAM -- stwest -- 11 January 2010

I wish I had seen these postings before I sent my info to them with a black and white scanned copy of my passport. Is there anything I need to do? I am teaching in Korea at the moment.

Re: Dubai, Premier Center - SCAM -- sigh -- 10 January 2010

sigh. i just went through the same process of being shortlisted and filing out these forms for the company, and they have just sent me a very detailed contract for work. i havent signed it or sent ...

Re: Dubai, Premier Center - SCAM -- Clarence Williams III -- 10 January 2010

Hello Clarence again I just got the same detailed contract. I called it a scam because I heard no responce. In weeks to come i will repost and give you an accurate answer if this is a scam or no. ...

Re: Dubai, Premier Center - SCAM -- sigh -- 10 January 2010

most definitly a scam. facts: the street exists in dubai, but not that building number the phone numbers are invalid (if you try calling) a contact in dubai has asked around and the company does not ...

Re: Dubai, Premier Center -- Turnoi -- 4 January 2010

Hard to tell whether it's legit or a scum... However, my impression is it is a recruiter who is behind all this. Mostly, people have had bad experiences with recruiters in that area.Therefore, I ...

Re: Dubai, Premier Center -- Paul -- 4 January 2010

I was also wondering this. They seem to ask for a lot of information up front.

Overseas education or OEC language training in Xiamen City -- scott -- 1 January 2010

Hi I would like to warn foreigners who are looking for full time and part time job here in Xiamen city to please avoid a certain MR. CHEn from the OEC language training school in xiamen city. He ...

Re: ENLI, Tianjin -- unhappy camper -- 31 December 2009

Hi all. I am the original poster of the warning against ENLI. Just a quick response to the information posted by "Balanced View of Enli". I don't know who you are so I cannot say if we know each ...

Re: ENLI, Tianjin -- Nathan -- 4 March 2010

My name is Nathan and I did work for Enli School as well. I worked there for 6 months (did a six month contract). Initially upon signing the contract with the school, Shawn Ottarson (the owner of ...

Re: ENLI, Tianjin -- Alex -- 4 March 2010

Blimey, you haven't half been screwed over. However, I sincerely hope you won't let that put you off working in China ever again. There are indeed jobs here to be had with employers who ...

Re: ENLI, Tianjin -- Nathan -- 6 March 2010

Well, as I admitted, it was my big mistake to not get him to specify on the contract. I didn't think of it for 2 reasons, 1--lack of experience, 2--was a little nervous just meeting the new boss ...

Ahil English School Korea, Ulsan, Dong-Gu, Nammok -- ANET -- 31 December 2009

The following is written in the public interest of the ESL community. If I can spare at least one teacher the misery these people caused me, this effort will have been worthwhile. For native English ...

Re: Ahil English School Korea, Ulsan, Dong-Gu, Nammok -- eslguy -- 1 January 2010

Another reason NOT to teach in Korea.

Re: Ahil English School Korea, Ulsan, Dong-Gu, Nammok -- ANET -- 3 January 2010

Well put, eslguy. My first experience in Korea was a good one. After teaching elsewhere, I returned and as readers know, I had the misfortune of getting sick. I will never forget my bad experience ...

Re: Ahil English School Korea, Ulsan, Dong-Gu, Nammok -- elsguy -- 4 January 2010

I had my Korea experience from 2003-3009...off and on for six years. I love working with the kids, no doubt. I excelled in that aspect. But dealing with Koreans, in general..............no more. ...

Focus English Academy, Jiangmen -- Alan B. Cranford -- 31 December 2009

Does anyone have any information on Focus English Academy, Jiangmen, China? I have a job offer and would like feedback prior to accepting the position.

Re: TIANSHUO, CHANGCHUN, JILIN PROVINCE, - ESL school review -- Spanky -- 30 December 2009

Well done, Kevin :) The more teachers intimidate these misbegotten whelps instead of being intimidated by them the better all our working conditions will be. I just got an interesting unsolicited ...

Re: TIANSHUO, CHANGCHUN, JILIN PROVINCE, - ESL school review -- Turnoi -- 31 December 2009

Well done, Kevin :) The more teachers intimidate these misbegotten whelps instead of being intimidated by them the better all our working conditions will be. Excellent advice, and think would look ...

Re: TIANSHUO, CHANGCHUN, JILIN PROVINCE, - ESL school review -- CanadianCDN -- 27 January 2010

By any chance has Tianshuo changed names? Ive gotten a crummy offer from a school named Qi Zhao, the adress that RACHEL gave me is [10:23:21 PM] Rachel: 315 room .masterpiece building .Yatai Street ...

Re: TIANSHUO, CHANGCHUN, JILIN PROVINCE, - ESL school review -- Bin Dir Dun Dat -- 10 March 2010

Tian Shou moved about 1 km but did not change their name

Re: TIANSHUO, CHANGCHUN, JILIN PROVINCE, - ESL school review -- Turnoi -- 29 January 2010

It's possible but I am not sure. You can perhaps ask them whether they know about Tianshuo and whether they are the same company. It would be interesting to see what their reply is.

Online TOEFL, IELTS, etc. AVOID LIKE THE PLAGUE! freerobin@126.com, fannyi8866@hotmail.com -- Spanky -- 29 December 2009

To all qualified and experienced TOEFL and IELTS teachers. Do not accept less than $20/hour for your time. I have seen Fany advertising for online Prep course teachers 30 RMB per hour, and freerobin ...

Re: Online TOEFL, IELTS, etc. AVOID LIKE THE PLAGUE! freerobin@126.com, fannyi8866@hotmail.com -- Turnoi -- 30 December 2009

I absolutely agree, and thank you very much for posting this. These online "schools" seem to be another variant of crappy training centres to rip off people - students and teachers. There are several ...

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Re: vip china in beijing -- Turnoi -- 30 December 2009

That seems to be a recruiting agency, and if I were you I would keep my hands off from them! Instead, contact decent schools directly. This vip something is definitely a scum, and the only vip they ...

Re: vip china in beijing -- Jan Rigsby -- 1 January 2010

This vip something is definitely a scum, and the only vip they know is themselves to pocket all the money they take from other people. It's obvious you have had no dealings with VIP China - you ...

Re: vip china in beijing -- Turnoi -- 1 January 2010

Ahhh, another name while still using the same acronym? It's still a recruiting company, isn't it? I had once dealt with them in 2002, and they were a scum then, and I can't see why this ...

Re: vip china in beijing -- The Judge -- 31 December 2009

That seems to be a recruiting agency, and if I were you I would keep my hands off from them! Instead, contact decent schools directly. This vip something is definitely a scum, and the only vip they ...

Re: vip china in beijing -- Turnoi -- 31 December 2009

I stand fully by what I have said. I know this place and have my own experiences with them. They are scum and not to be trusted!

Re: VIP China of Beijing -- The Judge -- 1 January 2010

I know this place and have my own experiences with them. They are scum and not to be trusted! Simply not good enough, my friend. Details are needed to justify your low opinion of VIP China. You still ...

Re: VIP China of Beijing -- Turnoi -- 2 January 2010

Do I owe you any further explanation than mentioning the fact that I had dealt with them back in 2002? VIP then was run by a bunch of highly unprofessional Chinese yuppies who almost ripped me off ...

Re: VIP China of Beijing -- A former client of Goldwyn -- 2 January 2010

Pay no heed to what Turnoi says about VIP China, whose HQ is in Beijing. It's a legit organisation, and Goldwyn is as honest as the day is long. If you're after a teaching job in China, ...

Re: VIP China of Beijing -- Turnoi -- 3 January 2010

Hahaha....you are a former client of VIP? It seems you are one of his employees posting here in his favour.... Another pretender, I guess.

Re: VIP China of Beijing -- Haha -- 2 January 2010

You wrote "... and Goldwyn is as honest as the day is long." Well, the days are quite short at this time of the year.

Re: VIP China of Beijing -- Into English Idioms -- 2 January 2010

You wrote "... and Goldwyn is as honest as the day is long." Well, the days are quite short at this time of the year. Does Haha not realize that the expression 'as honest as the day is long' ...

Re: VIP China of Beijing -- Turnoi -- 3 January 2010

I'd say that the "honesty" of "Goldwyn" is as brief as the time is you have to run away when a crocodile has already caught you to eat you up. In accordance with the definition you have given for ...

Luzhou No. 2 High School of Sichuan -- Julie Cummings -- 29 December 2009

Does anyone have any info re teaching and living there?

Bell Education Trust-London/Riyadh -- Mark Summers -- 28 December 2009

Watch out for Bell Education Trust. They are the biggest crooks this side of China. Long story short, they promised me a job, told me to spend a small fortune on physicals and paperwork for a Saudi ...

Re: Bell Education Trust-London/Riyadh -- Turnoi -- 30 December 2009

What you describe sounds very much like the game played by highly unprofessional wonna-bees of something. Once you are in their hands after signing a contract or whatever with them and you are in ...

info on 2 schools in Sichuan, 1 in Hunan -- kurt -- 28 December 2009

Anyone got any info on Chengdu University of Technology, Leshan Teachers College, or Xiangtan University? Thanks for the knowledge.

Re: info on 2 schools in Sichuan, 1 in Hunan -- Chengdu FT -- 13 January 2010

Which university in Chengdu. There is Chengdu University of Science and Technology, Chengdu University of Technology, and Chengdu University of Information Technology.

Re: My experience at Clifford School in Panyu -- AnyonesGuess -- 28 December 2009

Who on earth is John Smith?

Re: My experience at Clifford School in Panyu -- AnyonesGuess -- 26 December 2009

I take it you never taught there then? Go see for yourself!

Re: My experience at Clifford School in Panyu -- Little Known -- 26 December 2009

Don't let the looks of a school like Clifford School fool you. Watch out for the administration, parents and students there. They are, with a few exceptions, not worth working with or for. Opt ...

CCIEE/Beijing Middle School #8 -- Joe -- 24 December 2009

Re: China Center for International Educational Exchange Jun Zhou Zheng de Dear Foreign Teachers, Please be advised this agency will start early by breaking contract agreements like reimbursed ...

Re: CCIEE/Beijing Middle School #8 -- Turnoi -- 30 December 2009

I would report them to the police and ask the police to make them return your passport. Moreover, I would report them to the Bureau of Foreign Experts in Beijing and ask them to investigate whether ...

Yeosu Public Schools, Korea -- Bob -- 23 December 2009

Do not work for Yeosu public school system, unless you want to support racism. The new head of education has stopped all hiring of non-white native English teachers, and is refusing all contract ...

Re: New Times International Sichuan Chengdu -- Chengdu FT -- 23 December 2009

Hello all, 30-40 per hour is what it works out to if you sign a contract. If you freelance for Irene it is usually a 100 per hour. Guess what? I actually worked for her in 1999 for a short while and ...

Re: New Times International Sichuan Chengdu -- Devil's Advocate -- 15 February 2010

Yes, I would agree with parts of the previous posts. I worked for Irene in 2006-2007. She really tried to get the most out of you in a very obvious way, and she would send us teachers to a variety of ...

Re: New Times International Sichuan Chengdu -- Chengdu CT -- 19 February 2010

Very fair post! I have never heard of Irene shorting people on cash. She is also usually pretty good at getting visas sorted out. But you will spend a lot of time running around. Anyone considering ...

Re: New Times International Sichuan Chengdu -- Wish I had read this earlier -- 22 December 2009

I wish I had done my homework earlier and had read this post. It would have saved me some trouble. I just left New Times International right before Christmas 2009. What a bad mistake I made working ...

WATCH OUT! – NETWORKESL - www.networkesl.com - NASTY -- ScamWarningChina -- 22 December 2009

WATCH OUT! – NETWORKESL - www.networkesl.com - NASTY In China there are many agencies which are aimed at selling foreigners to any employer who needs foreign teachers. Agency will tell you offer ...

Re: My experience at Clifford School in Panyu -- Qifuren -- 22 December 2009

Perhaps the majority of negative posts were made by one disgruntled person? Therefore, it's not actually reflecting any sort of reality of the situation in Clifford. Many of the posts above and ...

Re: My experience at Clifford School in Panyu -- Trent -- 24 December 2009

It is always interesting when I read someone trying to cover up the posts about Clifford International School. My own kids attend AISG because they have actual teachers with experience that know what ...

Re: My experience at Clifford School in Panyu -- Turino -- 25 December 2009

My own kids attend AISG because they have actual teachers with experience that know what they are doing and AISG is not controlled by members of the Communist Party. In fact, the truth is that your ...

Re: My experience at Clifford School in Panyu -- Trent -- 26 December 2009

Actually my kids attend AISG because after close exam of Clifford International School and my wife touring the school, in addition to long discussions with many parents that are in fact pulling their ...

Re: My experience at Clifford School in Panyu -- qifuren -- 27 December 2009

Now you're just making stuff up. It's funny that each post you make, your claims get worse and worse. You go from lousy teachers, to a school being run by the Communist Party (which isn't ...

Re: My experience at Clifford School in Panyu -- CSUWS -- 26 December 2009

First of all, what you consider to be a "qualified" teacher in China is open to interpretation. As for private schools and international schools in China, whether it be Clifford or some other place, ...

Re: My experience at Clifford School in Panyu -- Mainland Tefler -- 25 December 2009

An enlightening article I believe to be of interest to all foreigners residing in China is accessible to all. http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20091225/wl_time/08599195012800

Japan: THE QUEEN'S LTD -- mimiminime -- 22 December 2009

Hi everyone I have just had an job offer and interwiev in Japan with Osamu Fukuda I want to make sure that they are safe and reliable, ı have pasted their offer below, would you please contact ...

Genowledge of Shanghai & Beijing -- Gummy Ghost -- 22 December 2009

Apparently, this training center has gone to the wall: http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=77638&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

Re: Genowledge of Shanghai & Beijing -- Turnoi -- 30 December 2009

It's good to hear that..... First, Linguaphone, then Kai En something, and now this one..there are probably some more! The more the better, and the sooner the finer...Nobody is in need of any of ...

Re: Genowledge of Shanghai & Beijing -- Chengdu CT -- 30 December 2009

Anybody want to bet on who is going broke next? My money is on Meten.

Re: Genowledge of Shanghai & Beijing -- Turnoi -- 31 December 2009

I would love to see some of the crappy EF businesses go bankrupt next year! Let us wait and see.... Happy New Year!

Re: Hampson English-Hangzhou -- Chengdu FT -- 22 December 2009

DONT sign a contract. They might be okay to work for part time if you are really stuck for cash. But if you sign a contract wtih them you will regret it! I would rather go work in primary school for ...

The QUEEN'S LTD in japan Osamu Fukuda -- minime -- 22 December 2009

Hi Everyone , I just had an job offer and interview in Japan and wondering anyone mıght have any ıdea or aware of thıs school and owners /managers /teachers in Osamu Fukuda is the ...

Re: Giraffe English Language School - Haikou -- thomas -- 21 December 2009

beware of fu an , fuan , fujian sunlight kindergarten and cambridge. bad city, dirty and very unfriendly, no services and no manners . filthy streets. the school will cheat and not respect teachers, ...

Re: Giraffe English Language School - Haikou -- mark -- 24 February 2010

hello thomas. Well i have just moved from shijiazhuang hutchin school, (which is a good school, no problems at all, have helped me allot when i needed help) to Ningde, Fujian, Sunlight anglo chinese ...

WATCH OUT! - ZONE EDUCATION - www.zone-edu.com - NASTY -- CHINA SCAM WARNING -- 21 December 2009

Hi all, A few days ago I posted a message warning all to stay well clear of a recruiter going by numerous names and directly linked to the notorious FRANK ZHANG (do a search on this character!), for ...

Work Permits FEC in Chonging -- englishgibson -- 20 December 2009

My recent experience as well as a few others that I have spoken to suggest that there is an ongoing scam processing your work permits in this city. Not that you will have any difficulties getting a ...

Re: Work Permits FEC in Chongqing -- Turino -- 20 December 2009

As far as I know,Foreign Experts' Certificates for foreigners intending to teach in the provinces can only be issued by the Provincial Education Bureau of each province,based in each provincial ...

Re: Work Permits FEC in Chongqing -- Turino -- 20 December 2009

The bottom line is that once you sign your one-year deal anywhere in China, you are opened up to abuse. If a local authority does not treat you objectively, you might as well end up disgraced and on ...

Re: Work Permits FEC in Chongqing -- Chengdu FT -- 22 December 2009

FYI Chongqing is a municpality. It is governed directly by the central govenment and is no longer a part of Sichuan Province. The orginal poster shouldn't have the same problems here. Meten / ...

Re: Work Permits FEC in Chongqing -- englishgibson -- 23 December 2009

Chendu FT is quite right on the Chongqing juristiction as it is a special economic area and it enjoys, or abuses, the priviledge of "governing itself" and then it's answerable directly or only to ...

Re: Glory Hallelujah - out of business! -- TC hater -- 20 December 2009

Yes, good riddance to that useless Kai-En English place and the scum who owned and managed it. I love the saying "pretend professional", yes, that is exactly the type of person that is in control of ...

Re: Glory Hallelujah - out of business! -- Turnoi -- 20 December 2009

Useless, pathetic DOS's, incompetent and stupid young TA's, "managers" who couldn't manage a cake stall, corrupt Chinese CEO's who drive around in flashy black cars! Well, you ...

Re: Avoid Yangzhou College of Environment and Resources -- Turnoi -- 19 December 2009

It seems at Yangzhou College of Environment and Resources, the "environment" refers to fitlthy, dirty and cold rooms and that "resources" relates to the (abuncance of) mice/rats over there. Is it for ...

Re: Avoid Yangzhou College of Environment and Resources -- Ein Halb-Deutscher von Schottland -- 18 December 2009

I can verify that at least three of the rooms were filthy. What I remember the most about the place was the abundance of wildlife in and around the teachers' dorms. ( A couple of teachers played ...

Re: Avoid Yangzhou College of Environment and Resources -- kurt -- 19 December 2009

Mein lieber sauganleger der achselhöhlen: Please reread my post. I clearly stated that I visited a friend who lived there a few years ago. I taught at a university in town. Come to think of it, there ...

Re: Avoid Yangzhou College of Environment and Resources -- Ein Halb-Deutscher aus Schottland -- 19 December 2009

Please reread my post. I clearly stated that I visited a friend who lived there a few years ago. I taught at a university in town. Post re-read. It didn't say that you'd 'taught at a ...

Re: Avoid Yangzhou College of Environment and Resources -- Kurt -- 21 December 2009

Actually, the financial crisis has had a positive effect upon university and community college enrollment in some areas. Secondary school jobs are scarce. Public education has suffered as school ...

Re: Avoid Yangzhou College of Environment and Resources -- Ein Halb-Deutscher aus Schottland -- 22 December 2009

As I'm from the UK, I would only consider someone who had graduated from college/university to be a graduate. College/university students studying for their first tertiary educatonal ...

Re: Avoid Yangzhou College of Environment and Resources -- kurt -- 22 December 2009

As I'm from the UK, I would only consider someone who had graduated from college/university to be a graduate. College/university students studying for their first tertiary educatonal ...