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Re: Non-native English teacher / Please some hints on where to find jobs - Teachers discussion -- gigi -- 20 November 2009

Hey I got a job abroad and I'm not a native, hovewer.... today I was told: remember, keep speaking English everyday, if not, if you loose your English we won't need you anymore ...

Obstruction of Justice, Ulsan, S.Korea -- ANET -- 19 November 2009

While teaching English at Ahil English School in Korea, I was denied prompt medical care for a life-threatening illness. Then, I was fired for being in the hospital. The Korean authorities I turned ...

Help A Newbie Teacher Out! -- Kyle -- 19 November 2009

So my girlfriend and I are currently looking for jobs overseas (China) for teaching positions. We both have experience teaching in camps and tutoring and even before and after school programs. We ...

Re: Help A Newbie Teacher Out! -- Turnoi -- 20 November 2009

As far as China is concerned, working for training centres is mostly a second option for those who do not succeed (for a variety of reasons) to get a job in a public school, either uni/college or ...

Re: Teachers; How Would You Define Teaching? -- Me. -- 19 November 2009

Well said Turnoi.

More English needed as China steps up peacekeeping -- Native Son -- 19 November 2009

As China continues to grow and assume its role as economic and military co-leader of the world - so does its need to have more of her people speak English. If Miss Hornby is correct, it seems that in ...

Re: More English needed as China steps up peacekeeping -- cunning inguist -- 19 November 2009

What is being referred to here is English for Specific Purposes (ESP) and I would think that any competent teacher could adapt, given further study. As an example of ESP, I was offered a job teaching ...

Re: More English needed as China steps up peacekeeping -- Turnoi -- 19 November 2009

Well, guys.....I guess this means that not a single one of you qualifies as a potential hire to teach English to the China Military Services because, almost to a person, none of you is qualified to ...

Bluniverse current assessment -- Lesley -- 19 November 2009

It seems easy enough for people to put up negative comments on a school, but more difficult to get a current view accepted. I'm sure that many people, and we have met them, come to China ...

Re: Bluniverse current assessment -- Turnoi -- 20 November 2009

What you say about that "school" and the way you say it does not sound very credible to me.

Re: Bluniverse current assessment -- P@3 -- 19 November 2009

I'm curious to know what you mean by, "and there will be 'culture shock', and one must be determined to 'go with the flow' for a certain amount of a different approach to life and ...

Re: Bluniverse current assessment -- Silverboy -- 19 November 2009

Sounds like you are just another China school apologist to me! Yes, it is that old "it's a diferent culture" crap excuse once again. What a joke!

University students advised not to kiss in public -- cunning linguist -- 18 November 2009

Some Chinese universties have now banned students from kissing while sitting on park benches. I'm always intrigued by the application of rules and law so did some reading. Taking the UK as an ...

Re: University students advised not to kiss in public -- Silverboy -- 18 November 2009

You certainly have a good sense of humour CL. I wonder what the Chinese would think of this law: All single male FT's at Chinese universities should be supplied with cheap hookers for the ...

Re: University students advised not to kiss in public -- cunning linguist -- 19 November 2009

Thanks. Yes, I think being able to have a laugh at the absurdity of some things helps me cope with the ups and downs. There's a time to be serious, and a time to have a bloody good laugh at the ...

Re: University students advised not to kiss in public -- Turnoi -- 18 November 2009

What a bureaucratic nonsense! The only situation where I may find this advice really reasonable and necessary would be when those to be kissed in public were my crocodiles. And that advice would be ...

Re: I am becoming a bitter racist! Help! (bad Korea exp) -- Frank -- 17 November 2009

RE: BAD EXPERIENCE KOREA AGREED Hi, I would advise anyone and everyone to stay away from South Korea! just flat out stay away! Upon my arrival the school manager held piece of paper in his hand with ...

Re: I am becoming a bitter racist! Help! (bad Korea exp) -- ANET -- 17 November 2009

Thank you for coming forward. Bad Koreans give all Koreans a bad name. The NGO did fight the corruption, superstition and mistreatment of foreign teachers but it lost its power when the current ...

Re: I am becoming a bitter racist! Help! (bad Korea exp) -- Yellow Sam -- 17 November 2009

Frankly speaking, I've been through hell there too! I hate the arrogance and deceit of its people, though there are some exceptions I met who are not employed in the field of education. The ...

Re: I am becoming a bitter racist! Help! (bad Korea exp) -- Turnoi -- 17 November 2009

Unlike China, students in Korea tend to speak up and raise their voice in regular demonstrations against the government (or something/someone else, who knows), and when I was working for a uni in ...

Reputable Agencies -- Cristi -- 17 November 2009

Hello, I'm interested in teaching overseas. In the process of educating myself on various countries to work in, I've come across many agencies willing to place me. However, I'd like to ...

Re: Reputable Agencies -- Monitor -- 17 November 2009

FAO Cristi and other interested readers re Reputable Agencies: My Preferred Chinese Recruiters' Modus Operandi By:Monitor Date: 10 September 2009 By 'recruiter', I mean someone who tries ...

Re: Black List IN KOREA -- jk kim -- 16 November 2009

Beware of job posts by Changwon National University. The director has decided to lie about the salary and work hours offered. Before accepting a position there talk to some of the teachers working ...

Any Info about working in the Maldives? -- Simone -- 16 November 2009

Any information regarding looking for jobs in the Maldives and where are good places to go, would be hugely appreciated! Just looking for some words of advice.

Re: Any Info about working in the Maldives? -- Turnoi -- 17 November 2009

I have no practical experience with teaching in the Maldives. But I remember to have read a complaint by another poster about a certain school there that obviously has a high turn-over of foreign ...

TKT - an alternative to CELTA in TESL Teacher Training? -- Turnoi -- 16 November 2009

It is true that CELTA offered by many commercial providers is one the most well-known ESL teacher training qualifications. Apart from the fact that I have basic problem with such a training being ...

Re: TKT - an alternative to CELTA in TESL Teacher Training? -- cunning liguist -- 16 November 2009

Hi Turnoi. As I have finished all my assignment marking, after a mammoth two days of intensive reading and marking of student scripts, I have time to comment on your post. If you look at some of my ...

Re: TKT - an alternative to CELTA in TESL Teacher Training? -- Turnoi -- 17 November 2009

There is an optional module in TKT that deals with language structure at more depth.

Re: TKT - an alternative to CELTA in TESL Teacher Training? -- cunning linguist -- 17 November 2009

Correct, but we are still comparing apples and pears. TKT is not a qualification that gives "qualified teacher" status (however we define that term in the context of EFL/ESL), so it is not a true ...

Re: TKT - an alternative to CELTA in TESL Teacher Training? -- Turnoi -- 18 November 2009

Hi, CL - I have responded to your most recent post in this thread a bit more in depth below.... I have looked at TKT a bit more in depth, and I think it is very basic indeed. However, I think it ...

Re: TKT - an alternative to CELTA in TESL Teacher Training? -- cunning linguist -- 18 November 2009

Hi Turnoi and thanks for the comprehensive reply. As I'm sure you'd expect from me, there are a number of issues that need clarification. But first, I recognize your " linguistic pedigree" ...

Re: TKT - an alternative to CELTA in TESL Teacher Training? -- Turnoi -- 19 November 2009

We did some work for the CELTA course on this topic, in my case comparing English with Turkish. CL Did you know that in Turkish nouns do not normally take plural forms in either -lar or -ler ...

Re: TKT - an alternative to CELTA in TESL Teacher Training? -- cunning linguist -- 20 November 2009

"In other words, a good knowledge not only of English Grammar but also of the student's native language is helpful in Error Analysis and may even determine your teaching strategy in class." Yes, ...

Proof You Are Canadian -- Li Bai -- 12 November 2009

Hi folks, Just popped in for a quick hello and goodbye. Off to Canada in a few days and thought I'd leave a final thought, especially for my Canadian friends. My two buddies, the P.M.O. and Mary ...

2007giftedcamp@gmail.com hiring again! -- Lucy -- 12 November 2009

lol. Take it with a grain of salt. As luck with have it, the one time I happen to search for camps on Dave's Korean job board, it's the same day Jay Lee and Sally decide to post a job for ...

Re: 2007giftedcamp@gmail.com hiring again! -- ANET -- 12 November 2009

Hi Lucy, Thank you for sharing your observations.

Can a China employer legally hold a "deposit" -- Nathan -- 11 November 2009

Hey everyone, I have recently started working as an ESL teacher in China. This is my first time in China and I am not familiar with the laws here. Per my contract, the “school” holds a “deposit” from ...

Re: Can a China employer legally hold a "deposit" -- coolcat -- 12 November 2009

I say it's not cool and you shouldn't tolerate it! Your contract if it is like those I've had in three separate schools including private and public schools already contains a stipulation ...

Re: Can a China employer legally hold a "deposit" -- cunning linguist -- 12 November 2009

Hello Nathan. I have to agree with AMonk, although legality and illegality are relative terms in China. As you have signed the contract you have given your agreement to this unfair practice of taking ...

Re: Can a China employer legally hold a "deposit" -- Turnoi -- 12 November 2009

There is a principle that applies in China as everywhere in this world: The claim of a deposit is illegal if it is not in your contract. I suppose it is not in your contract: hence, it is illegal and ...

Re: Can a China employer legally hold a "deposit" -- AMonk -- 12 November 2009

Hi Nathan Yes, they can. If it is written into your contract and you signed the contract after seeing that clause, then it has now become "legal". If it was added after you had signed, then it would ...

Re: Can a China employer legally hold a "deposit" -- Snap -- 12 November 2009

I'm unsure about the legal situation re educational establishments in China holding back a foreign teacher's pay. That said, I believe it is a rare occurrence here in China. Before the start ...

Re: Can a China employer legally hold a "deposit" -- Ex-TC teacher -- 12 November 2009

This is no doubt an unprofessional school with something to hide. Please post the full name and location of the school you are working at. THanks

Teaching in Japan without a degree.. -- Justin -- 11 November 2009

So, I was wondering if anyone without a degree has found work in Japan with a Working Holiday Visa..

Re: Teaching in Japan without a degree.. -- arbeiter -- 12 November 2009

Doubtful. Sort of illegal.

Kipling might be helpful -- cunning linguist -- 11 November 2009

I have Rudyard Kipling's poem pinned up above my desk. Why? This popular poem, influenced by both Buddhism and Christianity, but from a confirmed agnostic, seems appropriate in my life and work ...

Is there anywhere to teach in China? -- Ashley S -- 10 November 2009

Hi, I have been searching for a couple months to try to find somewhere to teach in China but it seems like everytime I come accross a school or program that I think is great it ends up being a scam ...

Re: Is there anywhere to teach in China? -- cunning linguist -- 17 November 2009

Thanks for providng some background information as it is now easier to make suggesions. You mentioned Shenyang in your first post so I have e-mailed you with contacts to follow-up.

Re: Is there anywhere to teach in China? -- cunning linguist -- 11 November 2009

You have had some down-to-earth advice from Pangmei and Metalstorm. In order to assist you further, what is it that you bring to the party? Are you a graduate with a TEFL qualification? Have you had ...

Re: Is there anywhere to teach in China? -- Ashley S -- 16 November 2009

Hi, Cunning Linguist, In regards to your questions: Are you a graduate with a TEFL qualification? I have a degree in English and am currently taking a TEFL course Have you had experience of teaching ...

Re: Is there anywhere to teach in China? -- pangmei -- 10 November 2009

The sad reality is there really AREN'T too many good places in China left. I've discovered that everything in China requires "tradeoffs." If you want a high salary you need to do training ...

Re: Is there anywhere to teach in China? -- Ashley S. -- 16 November 2009

Thanks for all the advice. I am very quickly coming to realize that I might just have to take a leap of faith here and just pick a school. I have been offered a position at Jiangnan University, it ...

Re: Is there anywhere to teach in China? -- Turino -- 11 November 2009

Great piece,pangmei.In spite of all the negatives,so many louwai are still teaching here after years and years of continuous employment. I guess that's because of the respect,deserved or ...

Re: Is there anywhere to teach in China? -- MetalStorm -- 10 November 2009

Keep away from Wuhan Bioengineering Istitute, refer to my recent post about this place. WBI is a terrible place, they use agents/recruiters to find teachers for them, the recruiters lie about the ...

Re: Is there anywhere to teach in China? -- Migrant Worker -- 11 November 2009

I do agree that most training schools are crap but some are decent. Meaning you can actually be somewhat content. It's all luck of the draw though, because each is individually managed. At least ...

Re: Is there anywhere to teach in China? -- MetalStorm -- 11 November 2009

I agree about the pay at universities: It can be quite low. I have never worked at a decent training centre, we will have to agree to disagree on that one. I think that FT's should not rely on ...

Re: Is there anywhere to teach in China? -- Turino -- 11 November 2009

MetalStorm,I wouldn't entertain any thoughts of taking a teaching position at your former institute in Hunan for one reason alone - because said institute's Foreign Affairs Officer is a ...

Women on top -- cunning linguist -- 12 November 2009

Hello Turino and welcome back. Thanks for providing an interesting take on the fairer sex when they are on top in a dominating position. I have a Chinese boss who is female. Educated in the West and ...

Re: Women on top -- Turino -- 13 November 2009

Cunning Linguist has said: Hello Turino and welcome back. Thanks for providing an interesting take on the fairer sex when they are on top in a dominating position. First of all,thank you for ...

Re: Women on top -- cunning linguist -- 13 November 2009

Interesting comments. As for being supplied with a computer for the apartment I prefer to use my own laptop. It has all the software, (in English), for my work, and also for my music. It is linked to ...

Re: Is there anywhere to teach in China? -- Native Son -- 11 November 2009

for one reason alone - because said institute's Foreign Affairs Officer is a woman.I just couldn't bear to be bossed around by a Chinese woman who has been placed in a position of authority ...

Re: Is there anywhere to teach in China? -- onboard -- 13 November 2009

I'm going to back "Native son" on this one, since he or she is taking some flack. That anti-female Chinese manger riff was too loaded, and DID in my humble estimation did seem more than a bit ...

Re: Is there anywhere to teach in China? -- Turnoi -- 14 November 2009

You must not be someone who is "on board"; instead, you must be off-shore somewhere..... There is nothing wrong in stating certain preferences for a certain type of people like women (women do the ...

Re: Is there anywhere to teach in China? -- Silverboy -- 13 November 2009

I think you have not had much experience with Chinese women. You also say that some men here on this board are obsessed with Asian/Chinese women. You bet, I am one of them, as for any "package" yes, ...

Stringent requirements -- cunning linguist -- 13 November 2009

Hi Silverboy. Gosh, you are so brutally honest in your requirements for a partner! Not many people would have the guts to post a message like this. Given China's population I would imagine there ...

Re: Stringent requirements -- Turnoi -- 14 November 2009

CL, I think you forgot to add the requirement of sharp, white, and long teeth that really could give a good bite! Not required of all ladies, only of some, I guess...whether they are vampires to suck ...

Re: Stringent requirements -- cunning linguist -- 14 November 2009

Absolutely, but then these are related to Silverboy's requirements and not my own. Anyway, I have lots of assignments to mark for next week, so I will take a break from posting for a little ...

Re: Stringent requirements -- Turnoi -- 15 November 2009

When marking your papers, I'd suggest that you remember this proverb: "Paper is patient"...LOL Anyway, good luck, CL!

Re: Is there anywhere to teach in China? -- Turnoi -- 14 November 2009

I am afraid that the young crocodile ladies I have in mind will not match your requirement criteria.... What a pity, they have so nice, attractive teeth......

Re: Is there anywhere to teach in China? -- MetalStorm -- 12 November 2009

What Turino said is totally correct, seems to me that you don't like to hear the truth. I do not think that Turino hates all Chinese women, he married one of them after all. I am also looking for ...

Re: Is there anywhere to teach in China? -- Turnoi -- 12 November 2009

Wake up man! The "man" is a (Western) woman......

Re: Is there anywhere to teach in China? -- Turnoi -- 12 November 2009

A misogynistic attitude and approach to teaching in China by male foreign teachers certainly could give birth to a misandrist. Indeed, if the lady does hate men. Perhaps, you are merely a rejected ...

Re: Is there anywhere to teach in China? -- Turino -- 12 November 2009

I expect no less from you. I'm glad you're not disappointed!By the way,I've a Chinese wife,and the poster MetalStorm has agreed with my point of view,as expressed in my penultimate ...

Re: Is there anywhere to teach in China? -- MetalStorm -- 11 November 2009

Yes I agree with that. WBI is actually in Hubei province just otdide of Wuhan, but it does not matter, I am not pedantic about trivial mistakes. The name of the woman in question at WBI is Vivian, ...

Reputable MATESOL online -- Link -- 9 November 2009

Hey All, could someone recommend an accredited and reputable online MA TESOL course (preferably towards degree in teaching both adult and young learners). I live and work in NY, so the school should ...

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Re: Angelina's ESL Cafe is a good Agency//No, it is crap!!!! -- Turnoi -- 8 November 2009

If you claim that other posters complaining about recruiters and Angelina's so-called "ESL Cafe" do not know China, you may not know China too well either as far as the crappy world of ESL in ...

Re: Angelina's ESL Cafe is a good Agency//No, it is crap!!!! -- ex.baiyun.runaway -- 9 November 2009

Wew! I am privileged both to personally know the poster who has written in such a laudatory manner manner about Angelina's Cafe and the actual Angelina's Cafe itself. Angelina's Cafe is, ...

Re: Angelina's ESL Cafe is a good Agency//No, it is crap!!!! -- Turnoi -- 10 November 2009

Thank you for this additional piece of information. This Angelina ESL Cafe should be avoided anyway; and as for the poster, I cannot accept his remarks on other FTs who rightly complain about ...

Re: Angelina's ESL Cafe is a Crappy Agency -- EFL Laoshi in Sichuan -- 10 November 2009

Where I am teaching in China, my Canadian colleague had arrived one semester in advance of me, thanks to, but actually no thanks are due, to said crappy agency. Unfortunately, in spite of having ...

Re: Angelina's ESL Cafe is a Crappy Agency -- Happy Teacher -- 12 November 2009

Strange. Angelina's helped me secure a position last year, paying 1x,xxx,plus paid apartment and utilities, flight bonus in a Tertiary Teaching Institution in Zhejiang province with perks and all ...

Re: Angelina's ESL Cafe is a Crappy Agency -- Native Son -- 11 November 2009

You see, I'm A Kiwi, not a Canadian. So, Kiwi's are smarter than Canadians? You must be exceptional. It's truly amazing to me that with all the censorship on this board that ...

Re: Angelina's ESL Cafe is a Crappy Agency -- Turnoi -- 12 November 2009

All recruiters are not bad. All universities are not good. All foreign teachers are neither good nor bad. IT'S called LIFE. In course adjustments are often, no, more often than not, necessary. ...

Re: Angelina's ESL Cafe is a Crappy Agency -- EFL Laoshi in Sichuan -- 11 November 2009

You see, I'm A Kiwi, not a Canadian.. So, Kiwi's are smarter than Canadians? You must be exceptional. It's truly amazing to me that with all the censorship on this board that nationalism, ...

Re: Angelina's ESL Cafe is a Crappy Agency -- Turnoi -- 12 November 2009

I mentioned that I am a Kiwi because, as one, I needn't air fare recompense/reimbursement involving flights to Canada, unlike my Canadian colleague. I'm not implying I'm smarter than him. ...

Re: Not Funny -- L -- 8 November 2009

If at least a few people don't know that Mr. Gordon's post is supposed to be humorous or serious, then it's definitely just a joke. A very bad one, but nonetheless a stupid joke.

The epitome of ridicule among Chinese recruiters -- LOL... -- 7 November 2009

You want a good laugh, check this online joke of a Chinese recruiter. They want your resume, and they are ready to copy anything in order to get it. They "borrowed" the well-known names "Monster" and ...

We have to ridicule filthy Chinese recruiters -- Turnoi -- 7 November 2009

The sites look very unprofessional. Also, there is no definite address of the organisation/people behind. This should raise the red flag of alert. For a joke, I could perhaps make a fake application ...

Tale of a private language school -- cunning inguist -- 7 November 2009

We read here about some foreign teachers having a bad time. Here's a story about Chinese teachers going on strike for better pay and conditions. The owner is in the Chinese rich list but it's ...

Re: Tale of a private language school -- Turnoi -- 7 November 2009

That this actually can happen is good news - Chinese teachers on strike! Whow! It is high time that they are allowed to strike and to fight for their good rights! I wish them well and success!!! ...

GAC/OWENS school -- englishgibson -- 5 November 2009

I paid for my flight and a flat rental deposit six months ago, when I singed a contract with the GAC center owned by OWENS and Verakin High School (Sino-American International School). After ...

Re: GAC/OWENS school -- englishgibson -- 11 November 2009

On Friday, last week, my GAC center's manager, Michelle, that claims to have an MBA from a US University (I saw it on the wall behind her in latin language),told me that the part owner of the GAC ...

Re: GAC/OWENS school -- GAC Nightmere Poster -- 9 November 2009

Again, the world is very small. I have read many of English Gibson's postings on www.eslcafe.com and I would like to assure our readers here that E.G. is an old China hand with a good grasp on ...

Re: GAC/OWENS school -- The Mole -- 9 November 2009

As for GAC, it should be shut down. It's just an excuse to rip off poor unsuspecting Chinese students, many of whom actually come from lower middle class Chinese families that view GAC as a the ...

Re: GAC/OWENS school -- englishgibson -- 11 November 2009

In response to the ones that have bad experiences with GAC centers, I agree there are poorly run centers around. I myself have had an experience at the GAC Nanning (Guanxi) center that had a poor ...

Re: GAC/OWENS school -- Turnoi -- 10 November 2009

Such scam places should be shut down immediately!

Re: GAC in China Scam -- Turino -- 9 November 2009

GAC Nightmere Poster,I agree entirely with what you say. Furthermore,any foreign teachers teaching GAC in China run the risk of being cheated re their final month's paycheck or air fare ...

Re: GAC in China Scam -- MetalStorm -- 10 November 2009

I would like to back up what other posters have said here about GAC. Just another big scam here in China being perpetrated against gullible Chinese students and their naive parents by scumbag Chinese ...

Re: GAC/OWENS school -- The Knowledge -- 6 November 2009

GAC is being misused here in China to make extremely worthwhile profits for greedy Chinese directors of training centres and language mills; that's stage one of the scam. Stage two will take ...

Re: GAC/OWENS school -- Turnoi -- 6 November 2009

You said: By teaching GAC in China as a foreign teacher, you run the risk of being expected to perpetrate stage one of the aforementioned scam by inflating your students' grades so that they can ...

Re: GAC/OWENS school -- englishgibson -- 7 November 2009

guangzhou, nanning or chongqing GAC centers deal with a "middle man" (not only their own agencies to ship this fine product (kids) to abroad unis. these centers have their "agents" that facilitate ...

Re: GAC/OWENS school -- Turnoi -- 8 November 2009

Gibson, please look here; there is another reply I have made: http://www.eslteachersboard.com/cgi-bin/china-info/index.pl?read=4521 The nick you are using here suggests to me that you must be one of ...

Re: GAC/OWENS school -- A Contributor -- 7 November 2009

In 2007, I was teaching at a so-called international school which is located in the outer Guangzhou suburb of Longdong, and which has Australian and Canadian connections. In 2008, the school acquired ...

Re: Anyone give information about IGiT group in Saudi Arabia -- Amna -- 5 November 2009

Hi, I am also looking for information about IGIT. I will also call King Abdul Aziz University tomorrow to get more info. Anyone who has more information or experience with IGIT, please let me know.

Questions about degrees and ITTO school -- Mike Coulter -- 5 November 2009

I'm looking to do a career change and explore some. I have no experence in any teaching fields and don't know where to start! I would like to teach business English and every where I look at ...

Re: Questions about degrees and ITTO school -- cunning linguist -- 5 November 2009

Your honesty is commendable but, given your circumstances, I think you will have an uphill struggle if you want a decent job without holding a first degree. There are many who will state that they ...

Re: Questions about degrees and ITTO school -- Turnoi -- 5 November 2009

I can't advise you on online schools but what I can say is that you can get a CELTA teaching certificate within a 4 week intensive training course offered by a commercial provider. This would ...

Re: Questions about degrees and ITTO school -- Mike Coulter -- 6 November 2009

Thanks for the input! I'm living in USA in East Tennessee so I'm looking for some info on where I might start here! I'm willing to go back to school another 4 years if it helps with ...

Re: Questions about degrees and ITTO school -- Turnoi -- 7 November 2009

Mike, I want to encourage you to pursue an online degree option with at least a Bachelor degree at the end. After after that, you might get a something like CELTA qualification to teach English ...

Anyone have experience with 3 week English camps in Korea? -- Vivi -- 2 November 2009

Just trying to decide if I should a apply for an intense English camp which takes place for 3 weeks. I heard that there is hardly any free time, but maybe someone can give me feedback on their ...

Under-fire Education Minister -- cunning linguist -- 2 November 2009

Readers might be interested in why they removed the former Education Minister in China. Although he was educated in the US, it seems he has done little to improve standards. There's also another ...

Re: Under-fire Education Minister -- Turnoi -- 2 November 2009

Maybe, this Minister does deserve it. In other parts of the world, incapable manager and other so-called "leaders" get sacked; and it is high time that the same standards also apply in Mainland China!

Under-fire Education Minister -- KJK -- 3 November 2009

But really in a country the size of China how can one man make the needed changes that is going to turn around a department that is riddled with so much coruption. Very rarely even in Canada or any ...

Re: Under-fire Education Minister -- cunning linguist -- 4 November 2009

Some of your opinions, and those of others on this Forum are confirmed in this rather long but recent article about higher education in China. If you can get to the end of the article, it provides an ...

Re: Under-fire Education Minister -- Turnoi -- 3 November 2009

Of course, you are absolutely right in your assessment; I can confirm that from my own experiences. If that Minister of Education was sacked, then it may be because he fell in disgrace with the ...

Re: Under-fire Education Minister -- cunning linguist -- 3 November 2009

History tells us that one man can make a difference. However, I take your point that it is a big problem in China. But I disagree that officials are not held responsible in all countries. Having ...

The dynamic element of the time dimension -- Turnoi -- 4 November 2009

If we sat back and said , "Everything is hopeless, we can't do anything", we would miss the chance to make things better. We would not even need to critisize and complain about crappy training ...

What would make your lives easier? -- Tansy Clark -- 2 November 2009

Times Education Supplement has come up with a great idea to get teachers to upload teaching plans for lessons which they can share with each other. They have a rating system on the site so teachers ...

Re: What would make your lives easier? -- cunning linguist -- 3 November 2009

I am guessing that you work for the marketing department but I may be wrong. As someone who read the TES and Times Literary Supplement every week for many years I'm interested in great ideas from ...

Re: Anyone give information about IGiT group in Saudi Arabia -- Dennis Keeler -- 31 October 2009

John, did you ever get information on IGIT? My son has also been contacted about a teaching position, but we can't seem to find any info on them. Would appreciate any insight. Thanks Dennis

Re: Anyone give information about IGiT group in Saudi Arabia -- aero-plane -- 31 October 2009

Hi, I just signed a contract as well and am in the process of getting my visa. Maybe we can share information as we find it. Thanks.

50% of new expats leave China early -- cunning linguist -- 31 October 2009

Newspaper article today in China Daily states that one company thinks culture shock is the key reason. They offer seminars to business people on how to cope (He He he - we can make money here!!). I ...

Re: 50% of new expats leave China early -- Turnoi -- 31 October 2009

CL, I'd be interested to follow up the link. Could you provide it as a reference, please?

Re: 50% of new expats leave China early -- cunning linguist -- 31 October 2009

50% of new expats leave China early http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/metro/2009-10/30/content_8873247.htm The responses are really interesting as some mirror some of the comments made on this Forum. ...

How to become an english teacher abroad -- karladc -- 31 October 2009

hi, I'm 21. I was born in Cusco, Perú. I can speak english, japanese and a bit of italian .... and no I'm learning french, I love languages because of culture but I've seen an opportunity ...

Re: How to become an english teacher abroad -- cunning linguist -- 8 November 2009

Dear Kate You asked about becoming an English teacher abroad. The replies you have had so far are in response to a lack of information, and possibly a sense of frustration from posters who will try ...

Re: How to become an english teacher abroad -- L -- 8 November 2009

Karladc, I realized I made a mistake with my initial post, which was posted in reply to Turnoi's post. To clear things up, that post which I've cut and pasted here was supposed to be meant ...

Re: How to become an english teacher abroad -- Turnoi -- 31 October 2009

You said: maye I could teach in Japan cause my jpanese. Question: I don't understand the meaning of your somewhat "unusual" sentence above: Do you want to teach Japanese in Japan?

Re: How to become an english teacher abroad -- L -- 7 November 2009

I'm going to be critical but not mean. Your grammar skills aren't even close to par with a native speaker of English. As far as I know, one of the requirements for most schools is for the ...

Re: How to become an english teacher abroad -- Silverboy -- 14 November 2009

Now you listen up you pompous fool. For a start, the Turnoi poster is very well educated, probably a lot more than you. You must have a degree to teach in China or other parts of Asia? Seems that you ...

Re: How to become an english teacher abroad -- Turnoi -- 15 November 2009

Silverboy, thank you for your efforts to come to my support. But I think the L poster has already made it clear that he/she was referring to the post of the OP in this thread.

Re: How to become an english teacher abroad -- Turnoi -- 7 November 2009

My I advise you to improve your English reading skills? Your reply to my post is totally off-topic and out of context. I have volunteered to give someone some advice on how to become an English ...

Re: How to become an english teacher abroad -- L -- 8 November 2009

Anyway, it doesn't seem like she's following the thread since she hasn't responded to your answer in a week, so perhaps we're both wasting our breaths here.

Re: How to become an english teacher abroad -- Turnoi -- 8 November 2009

If I remember correctly, the OP was writing from Peru. Peru is a country with a larger minority of Japanese immigrants or descendants from Japanese. And it may well be that the OP does not have ...

Re: How to become an english teacher abroad -- L -- 8 November 2009

She said she was born in Peru, but we don't know if she's currently living there. However, it'd be true what you said if she resides there and if she is a descendant of Japanese ancestry.

Re: How to become an english teacher abroad -- L -- 8 November 2009

My deepest apologies, Turnoi. It seems my reply went to the wrong person. My answers were directed towards karladc, not you. Sorry about that.

Re: How to become an english teacher abroad -- Turnoi -- 8 November 2009

Thanks, that's fair enough. If you really had been the kind of grovelling weasels I thought you were, then I would have simply told my crocs to take good care of you....LOL.

Avoid GAC in China, it's a scam! -- Disillusioned GAC Facilitator -- 30 October 2009

GAC, the Global Assessment Certificate, is a demanding and fast-paced pre-university 9-month preparatory course for learners who are non-native speakers of English who wish to study at Western ...

Re: Avoid GAC in China, it's a scam!//Yes, very true!!! -- Turnoi -- 31 October 2009

I do not know what GAC exactly is...but I know that preparing Chinese students from well-to-do families in Mainland China is a bifg business there. And I for sure know it is a scam, mostly. In 2002, ...

Re: Avoid GAC in China, it's a scam! -- Monitor -- 30 October 2009

The quote below is from the "Radio Australia online" website. The relevant link is: http://www.radioaustralianews.net.au/stories/200909/2688926.htm 'Shonky' colleges While scraping together a ...

Re: Avoid GAC in China, it's a scam! -- cunning linguist -- 30 October 2009

An interesting piece, giving an insider's view. It's not surprising that you are disillusioned. I felt the same way when I worked for an International Business School, teaching business ...

Higher education equals money -- cunning linguist -- 31 October 2009

You are absolutely right in your assessment. I would like to think that the UK is somehow different, but with the massive expansion in university education, the attraction of higher fee-paying ...

Re: Higher education equals money -- englishgibson -- 12 November 2009

On topic of "higher education equals money", I have to say that it only does, if it is a real quality HIGHER EDUCATION. If the quality goes down the drain, so will the money (one day). Just imagine ...

Re: Higher education equals money -- Turino -- 13 November 2009

For me, the worst is that I have worked for them for more than 4 years and that I have put my effort into learning their academic product. I'm sure you have grasped the ins and outs of teaching ...

Re: Higher education equals money -- Monitor -- 13 November 2009

Sorry to hear of your troubles re GAC Chongqing, English Gibson. That said, a ropey outfit like that is undeserving of the services in the classroom of a dedicated and talented professional teacher ...

Re: Higher education equals money -- Turnoi -- 13 November 2009

I fully agree with what you said..... Money very often can corrupt high quality education at all levels; the many crappy training centres in China are an instructive example! Cheers and beers to all ...

Re: Higher education equals money -- cunning linguist -- 13 November 2009

Thanks for the detailed response. Sadly, in some countries, the equation "higher education equals money" is true even if the education is not of a good quality .

Re: Higher education equals money -- Turnoi -- 14 November 2009

And one of these countries is China - unfortunately!

Re: Higher education equals money -- Silverboy -- 1 November 2009

I feel that Young and Restless in China video you spoke of is symptomatic of the problems that are going to get worse in China. The Chinese are suffering a severe spiritual malaise that is going to ...

Consumerism -- cunning linguist -- 1 November 2009

Sorry folks for ignoring the main subject of this thread. It comes as no surprise that consumerism has replaced other values. Consider the access Chinese young people have to western ideas and ...

Australia's Connection -- KJK -- 31 October 2009

Why is Australia not donig anything about this problem? Australia is one of the most popular countries to go to for Chinese students because Australia has become hooked on the big dollars being paid ...

Re: Australia's Connection -- Global Study Talk -- 2 November 2009

I don't agree that Value of Australian degrees are going down the toilet. Australian degrees (bachelor degrees awarded by universities) still have lot of value in Asian countries as well as other ...

Re: Australia's Connection -- Turnoi -- 3 November 2009

Degrees documents issued by decent and recognised Australian universities are still respected in many parts of the world, an their reputation and acceptance does not go "down the toilette" as ...

Re: Australia's Connection -- Silverboy -- 1 November 2009

Whilst I will agree that there are some crap colleges and universities even in Australia, I don't know where you obtained that 50 per cent figure. The University of Queensland, Melbourne ...

Re: Australia's Connection -- KJK -- 5 November 2009

Sorry so taking so long in replying to your question Silverboy. I came across that info that Australian uni's were lowering their standards in order to attract more Chinese students at another ...

Re: Australia's Connection -- Simon says -- 5 November 2009

Sorry so taking so long in replying to your question Silverboy. I came across that info that Australian uni's were lowering their standards in order to attract more Chinese students at another ...

Re: Australia's Connection -- Silverboy -- 6 November 2009

I have already stated on this forum many times that I think any crap school or university should be eliminated, in China, Australia, or elsewhere. Sadly, there is always someone who will try to make ...

Re: Australia's Connection -- Turnoi -- 6 November 2009

Yes, I fully agree - crap pretend "schools" are not only limited to China!

Re: Australia's Connection -- Turnoi -- 1 November 2009

I agree - given the current serious problems that the Chinese education has, the Chinese education system cannot match with any of the decent education systems and unis outside China. That said, it ...

Re: Australia's Connection -- Global Study Talk -- 4 November 2009

exactly, comparing Chinese universities to Australian Universities is bit too much. It will take another 20-25 years before the Chinese universities is able to compare to Australian Universities. ...

Re: Australia's Connection -- Turnoi -- 4 November 2009

I agree - Chinese universities are (still) not able to match with the standards at decent universities abroad. But in terms of the time it may take to complete for Chinese unis such a catch up ...

The key sentences are, 'What did you eat?Did you eat? I ate -- Lucia -- 30 October 2009

I have no teaching experince! I have no idea how to get my students motivated or how to create lesson plan about food for 40 mintues .The key sentences are, 'What did you eat?', 'Did you ...

Re: The key sentences are, 'What did you eat?Did you eat? I ate -- cunning linguist -- 30 October 2009

You don't give information about the level of the students, so try this link:- http://www.lessonplanet.com/search/search?keywords=Foods&rating=4&gclid=COmKut3F5p0CFdEvpAodK2PvKg The website ...

Eating and being eaten -- Turnoi -- 31 October 2009

Teaching sentences with different forms of "eat" must also be a good opportunity to introduce the notion of Passive Voice and its structures in English: You can eat actively some apples, for ...

several questions regarding teaching English in Korea... -- prospectenglishteacher -- 29 October 2009

Hello everyone! My fiancee and I have generated interest in teaching English in Korea. We will be married this summer 2010, and look to start perhaps in September. We are both adventurous, ambitious ...

N1H1 Virus in my training center in Korea -- William Peters -- 28 October 2009

Hi. Yes, that's right the N1HI Virus is in my training center in Korea. One of the teacher trainers came down with it a couple of days ago. I'm starting to feel sick, on my way to the doctor ...

Re: N1H1 Virus in my training center in Korea -- cunning linguist -- 28 October 2009

Dear William A few questions: •If the other teachers are unaware of the problem is there a reason - secrecy, wait and see what happens, or something else? •Have you seen the diagnosis of the fellow ...

Re: N1H1 Virus in my training center in Korea -- ANET -- 29 October 2009

This is part of the Korean culture. They don't want to discuss anything that's bad. There is a superstition in the smaller cities that paying attention to illness is bad luck. If H1N1 is ...

Re: N1H1 Virus in my training center in Korea -- cunning linguist -- 29 October 2009

Thanks for your information which is helpful to William who has this problem to deal with in S. Korea.

Re: N1H1 Virus in my training center in Korea -- cunning linguist -- 29 October 2009

Further information http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2009-10/26/content_8849776.htm

Re: N1H1 Virus in my training center in Korea -- Turnoi -- 3 November 2009

I have just received the news that in several countries in Europe an increasing number of people have been diagnosed to be infected with the N1H1 virus and thus to suffer from swine flu. In some ...

Free Disk with Tools for the Study of Canonical Buddhist Scripture -- Turnoi -- 27 October 2009

For all those interested in Buddhism: We also have produced now a free disk which helps in the study of authentic texts of Canonical Buddhist Scripture in the original language(s) with English ...

WARNING!!!!Throat Expert Doctor Strikes Again - New name/id: Dr. Peter Graham, pg200909@yahoo.ca -- MS. X (marxlenin) -- 27 October 2009

I was also a victim of this Throat Expert Doctor. He said he is a doctor named Dr.Peter Graham He offered me teaching job to children with disabilities such as difficulties with swallowing and ...

Re: WARNING!!!!Throat Expert Doctor Strikes Again - New name/id: Dr. Peter Graham, pg200909@yahoo.ca -- N -- 27 October 2009

do you have caller id? there is a way to stop this guy. don't feel bad. he found a great scam, because it works, and he needs to be stopped.

ESL Teaching and Learning Materials -- Turnoi -- 25 October 2009

We have produced a much revised, updated and enlarged version of our accredited TESL degree program. This 2009 version comes in form of a disk (DVD) containing the following: * a complete TESL ...

How to get a reputable teaching job abroaqd for a first- timer -- Ruth -- 25 October 2009

Hello. I am new to this site,- was referred here by a pal. I am a mathematics teacher, teaching in Kenya, and have been looking for a job abroad, for a change. Various web searches have left me so ...

Re: How to get a reputable teaching job abroaqd for a first- timer -- Turnoi -- 25 October 2009

Jambo, Ruth - perhaps I have to disappoint you with what I have to say below; please take it then as a well-meant advice.... Just for immigration rules and labour/employment laws in the countries you ...

Calling all Foreign Teachers -- ANET -- 24 October 2009

Have you, or anyone you know, ever developed kidney ailments while living and working in Korea? If so, in what city was it? Did you, or anyone you know, ever get fired by a Korean employer while in ...

SIOP/GLAD compare & contrast -- Heather -- 24 October 2009

Hello all, I am working on my MS in Ed degree and am writing an essay about the similarities and differences of GLAD and SIOP teaching methods. I am GLAD trained, but it was a while ago - anyone want ...

Re: SIOP/GLAD compare & contrast -- cunning linguist -- 24 October 2009

Both methods suggest making the link with national curriculum standards / objectives in lesson preparation. As you are trained in GLAD (Guided Language Acquisition Design),you will know more about ...

China Z Visa Health Check -- Hunter -- 23 October 2009

There was a post a couple of weeks ago but only one response and not very definitive. The medical form indicates tests for HIV, TB, etc but doesn't say anything about tests for marijuana. Do the ...

Re: China Z Visa Health Check -- ks_1976 -- 23 October 2009

I had a couple of medical tests done while working in China and they did not test for drugs. These tests were done in two different provinces too!

Re: China Z Visa Health Check -- Turnoi -- 24 October 2009

Smoking is consuming a drug, too. Or getting drunk..... Perhaps, next time the will also include a psychological intelligence test in the medical exam for foreign teachers. In some cases, it might be ...

E2 Visa expiry -- Rach -- 22 October 2009

Hello, How long can my employer make me work until...like in relation to my Visa dates? Does my one year contract start from the date I arrived in Korea and got my passport stamped...or from when I ...

Re: E2 Visa expiry -- ANET -- 24 October 2009

Your 12 month teaching period starts as soon as you get your alien card and can last until the expiry date shown on that alien card. Employment contracts with Native English teachers are worthless ...

A new world order? -- cunning lnguist -- 22 October 2009

The posts on Happy Birthday China and China's 'dollar' holdings set me thinking. This article is worth reading if you think capitalism is on the brink of collapse. One key message here ...

Re: A new world order? -- HireEd -- 23 October 2009

A very illuminating article! Many thanks! Unfortunately, I have to agree woth most of the theories put forth within, especially those of Fareed Zakariah. I had so many amazing experiences during my 5 ...

Re: A new world order? -- cunning linguist -- 23 October 2009

Thanks. I would say that we may be fearful of China if there is a less 'pro-mainland' government in power in Taiwan, and the Chinese do something about disputed territory claimed by the ...

Re: A new world order? -- Turnoi -- 23 October 2009

There are many Europeans and most likely many other non-US Americans also, who would like America to "abdicate" from its current world-dominant role. The only problem is: who comes after that? With ...

Re: A new world order? -- cunning liguist -- 23 October 2009

It's possible that those who are concerned about the dominance of America, including some American teachers I have spoken with, are responding to foreign policy issues. Last semester I did some ...

Re: A new world order? -- Silverboy -- 23 October 2009

I sincerely hope it is never the Chinese who overtake the USA in any capacity!

Rise and Fall, coming and going -- Turnoi -- 24 October 2009

Whether China or the US in the role of a world-dominant power - what is better or worse? I cannot give an answer. I am from a small country with only something like a bit more than a million of ...

Re: Rise and Fall, coming and going -- Aquillah -- 26 October 2009

U.S has dominated world affairs, enjoyed its being a SUPERPOWER and a capitalist. But U.S/America is collapsing. It won't be a major player and a Superpower in the end....God maybe is judging U.S ...

Re: Rise and Fall, coming and going -- cunning linguist -- 27 October 2009

I suppose your opinion is accurate if one believes in a monotheistic deity with the power to punish and bless countries - I don't. It has been said that three-quarters of Americans believe in the ...

Re: Rise and Fall, coming and going//Beliefs -- Turnoi -- 27 October 2009

Sorry Turnoi, I know theology, amongst other things, is your field of expertise. CL My comment: What the Aquillah poster says his the personal belief of the poster and not necessarily a theological ...

Re: Rise and Fall, coming and going//Beliefs -- cunning linguist -- 28 October 2009

"It is the question of whether Western dominance represented by the current world-dominating US is in decline or not and whether we can accept it or not." Indeed. I started this thread to consider ...

Re: Rise and Fall, coming and going//Beliefs -- Turnoi -- 29 October 2009

Your point is well taken, CL. I will not comment on it any further right now; I am very tired as I only returned from my business trip just today. Take care, T.

Re: Rise and Fall, coming and going -- HireEd -- 26 October 2009

If you are correct. GOD HELP US ALL!!!

Re: Rise and Fall, coming and going -- Turnoi -- 26 October 2009

You may be right in your assessment regarding China as the next rising world power. I am not sure whether this will be a better alternative for the world than the USA. I am writing from Africa ...

Re: Rise and Fall, coming and going -- The Owl -- 24 October 2009

Most excellent post, Turnoi. Thank you.

Guilin - Cost of Living -- Ed -- 21 October 2009

I'm considering a move to Guilin but am finding cost of living information difficult to find. I'm planning to move there on a tourist visa to start, settle in a little, and then start looking ...

Re: Guilin - Cost of Living -- Ex-TC teacher -- 21 October 2009

I would avoid Guilin if I was you. Especially Yangshuo. Your life will be made difficult & expensive by all the locals that will assume you are a naive, rich tourist and will try to rip you off on ...

Huludao elementary, Liaoning. -- asd -- 19 October 2009

I did a bit of research on this job offer and only within the last 12 months have they dropped their airfare reimbursement from 7500 to 5000 yuan and actually increased the working hours from 20 to ...

sam marsalli institute bad (santiago, chile) -- henry gore -- 18 October 2009

i do not recommend teaching at this place. it has three schools in santiago, chile, and two in other parts of the country. the owner promises you a bonus, health insurance, regular pay, but does not ...

Resident Visa -- Victor Andrew -- 17 October 2009

Hi all. Numerous topics and discussions have been posted here about recruiters. There is one particular recruiter from a company who keeps on calling since yesterday (12 times) asking for a copy of ...

Re: Resident Visa -- Turnoi -- 18 October 2009

Don't give him a copy of your visa; he may use it for something else than the actual purpose stated by him. Instead, you could offer him to send it to the school directly. Even if you get the job ...

Re: Resident Visa -- Victor Andrew -- 18 October 2009

Thank you for the advice. I did not entertain his calls in which the last call was at 21:45 last night. When he figured out that I am not going to give anything, he called my wife and asked her to ...

Re: Resident Visa -- AMonk -- 18 October 2009

12 calls in 24 hours!?! Seems to be bordering on stalking. Besides, what is "urgent" for him, need not be urgent for you. Stick to your guns, and do not send him any copies.

Re: Resident Visa -- Turnoi -- 19 October 2009

Yes, what is urgent for that person needs not to be urgent for you, please bear this mind! He is a someone asking you a "favour" which you are not obliged to grant. It may not be in your own interest ...

Names for ESL students! -- ex-TC teacher -- 16 October 2009

http://www.boysnames.co.uk http://www.girlsnames.co.uk Two websites to give to your students. Help them choose for themselves a good name!

Linguaphone China (Jinan, Shandong) -- kangaroo -- 16 October 2009

A brief warning to anyone considering employment with this business. Don't! They have an appalling attitude towards their foreign teachers (and Chinese staff also). You will suffer a hassle each ...

Re: Linguaphone China (Jinan, Shandong) -- Turnoi -- 17 October 2009

What is Linguaphone? Just another crap "school", I guess. Avoid!

Re: Linguaphone China (Jinan, Shandong) -- Silverboy -- 16 October 2009

It is Linguaphone, what else would you expect to get from them? AVOID!

Re: Modern Modern American Language Institute in Yemen -- Abu -- 14 October 2009

MALI is an avoid-at-all-cost kind of place. If you want to teach in Yemen, consider YALI, Amideast, or the British Council. Many foreign workers have had problems working at MALI, either by being ...

Re: Black List IN KOREA - Wonderland English School, Ulsan -- Garrett -- 14 October 2009

Hello, Can anyone tell me about Sang Ah Top Hakwon, Ulsan city. I am thinking about taking a position there, but from what I have been reading it seems that Ulsan is not the most desirable place to ...

Re: Black List IN KOREA - Wonderland English School, Ulsan -- ANET -- 17 October 2009

I lived and worked in Ulsan for three years. In my opinion, the colleges and university positions are OK. As for Hagwons (English Academies) the only decent ones are: the ELC chain, Megaton and ...

Teacher Training -- James -- 13 October 2009

Hi all, I run a couple of language schools and teacher training schools around Europe. The problem I am writing about is to do with teacher training. Lately my staff and I are finding it more and ...

Re: Teacher Training -- Turnoi -- 17 October 2009

I cannot really understand the problem you are having.... Let's say, if there was a new medicament under development, and the producer would ask you to volunteer as a test person in the ...

Re: Teacher Training -- cunning linguist -- 17 October 2009

Hi and welcome back. I trust your business trip was successful? The training model James is using in his schools I am guessing is similar to the one used for CELTA. And I based my suggrstions on that ...

Re: Teacher Training -- Turnoi -- 18 October 2009

Hi,CL - I will be travelling again from Monday (tomorrow) on, I just have had a break so I've also had some internet access. I will probably be off the internet for the next week. Have a great ...

Re: Teacher Training -- cunning inguist -- 14 October 2009

Hello James You don't state what your company offers in the way of teacher training - CELTA, TEFL, TESOL? Without going into specific details of your business, (not asked for), here are a few ...

Re: Teacher Training -- James -- 15 October 2009

Thank you for the sound advice. Great ideas and questions, but again, nothing I have not thought of or acted on. I have since met with other course providers in the country (who are experiencing the ...

Re: Teacher Training -- cunning linguist -- 16 October 2009

Glad to help. Good luck. The tie-up with the employment agency seems a sensible move.

RE: South African working legally in Indonesia -- bigfish -- 13 October 2009

Hi there Im a South African seeking work legally as an ESL teacher in Indonesia. Numerous - in fact most - job offers in Indonesia categorically state that only UK, USA, Australian, New Zealand, ...

Looking.... -- ex_TC Teacher -- 12 October 2009

Looking at the resume section, I can't help but feel sorry that an over whelming number of job seekers have not mastered simple things like punctuation, spaces after punctuation and the next ...

Re: Looking.... -- Monitor -- 12 October 2009

Most of them are non-native speakers of English, or semi-literate native speakers of English. In spite of their iffy written English, some lucky ones will get teaching posts in China, working for ...

Re: Looking.... -- Simple Guy -- 15 October 2009

Hi Monitor, don't generalize. coz there are some native speakers who does not even know how to spell words they utter and grammar even.

Re: Looking.... -- Monitor -- 16 October 2009

Most of them are non-native speakers of English, or semi-literate native speakers of English. In spite of their iffy written English, some lucky ones will get teaching posts in China, working for ...

Work In China - READ THIS -- WarningSigns -- 11 October 2009

Hi there, I'm no expert, but I've seen quite a few people going through hell this year. Just thought I'd post a little warning. With western countries finding their economic feet stuck in ...

Re: Work In China - READ THIS -- Shanghai Cowboy -- 13 October 2009

Every PSB in China knows that companies hire unregistered staff; they only "crack down" when they need money (the Shanghai PSB uses the schools here like ATMs). While it's technically illegal to ...

lessons for young children's oral interpretation -- NOR -- 10 October 2009

hi, does anyone have any good material for the teaching of oral interpretation for young students aged 9-14? i'm looking for monologues, dialogues and interesting or funny narratives suitable for ...

Re: Aston English Review -- Haggisbreath -- 9 October 2009

Turnoi, I have to assume you're being satirical? The Aston I know offers heavy class loads, pay that's unremarkable at best, rancid apartments that you have to share, bloody awful texts, and ...

Re: Aston English Review -- asd -- 13 October 2009

Sounds like Aston really is terrible to work for. I've been talking to their Canadian recruiter based in Dalian a fair bit and he genuinely seems like a nice guy. But working for Aston sounds ...

Re: Aston English Review -- Haggisbreath -- 17 October 2009

Bear in mind that the job of the recruiter is to try and get yer wee pink arse delivered to one of their schools, so of course they're going to seem nice. Don't let them hand you a Mersey ...

Aston is an excellent place to work for! Or not?...... -- Turnoi -- 18 October 2009

Much has been said already with regard to the excellent working and compensation conditions that this famous (or should I say "infamous") pretend "school" offers. If you are looking for a job in ...

Re: Aston is an excellent place to work for! Or not?...... -- F-Aston -- 2 November 2009

Aston is a horrible company to work for. Take it from me. I worked there for 6 months, my first job in China and it was ridiculous what I was put through. First of all, the manager at the school ...

ESL Software -- Jim Laing -- 7 October 2009

Hi, We are looking for software to teach our ESL students how to speak English. I've seen a couple of different one on the web including Rosetta Stone and Tell Me More. I was wondering if anyone ...

Notice of Absence -- Turnoi -- 7 October 2009

I will be away for a couple of weeks until the end of the month in business matters. Just for those who may "miss" my posts..... CU then....

Re: ILS school, Yongin South Korea -- Sophie -- 6 October 2009

Hi, I have applied for this school too (ILS in Yongin). Did you teach there or are you still there? Could you tell me about it if so. Thanks. I cant find any info.

Has Anyone Heard of Maven Language School in Korea? -- Recent College Grad Interested in Teaching -- 5 October 2009

I am talking to a recruiter there and am wondering what kind of reputation the recruiting organization has. Thanks so much.

Postings on FACEBOOK -- ANET -- 2 October 2009

To Whom It May Concern: I am NOT on FACEBOOK. I do NOT post on FACEBOOK. Any postings under the name ANET are not from me. Beware of Phishing Scam artists posting as members of ATEK and requesting ...

Re: Postings on FACEBOOK -- Turnoi -- 4 October 2009

These scam artists are most likely trying to get hold of teacher data to post fake CVs on other sites or to sell them to crap recruiters who are mailing them to recruit them for a crappy job. There ...

To the nation of dragons! -- Not a native son -- 1 October 2009

Congratulations, you nation of dragons! You have been around for thousands of years, with all the many ups and downs in your long history. You have been humbled and lifted up again, restoring ...

Happy Birthday, Zhongguo -- Native Son -- 30 September 2009

Sixty years. Happy birthday. You've come a long way in a short time. To me, not surprisingly. Your history is a long and storied one. From the killing fields of dynastic despots to the ...

Re: Happy Birthday, Zhongguo -- Godson of China -- 1 October 2009

Native son, you have written a wonderful and rousing piece that confirms your steadfast patriotism for your fatherland. Your government is the envy of the rest of the world. Your homeland will become ...

Re: Happy Birthday, Zhongguo -- Wang Ba Dan -- 2 October 2009

Godson of China do not exist and is only in head of foreigner they do not know Chinese culture. Respect China, respect culture of China, do not say wrong thing!

Re: Happy Birthday, Zhongguo -- Monitor -- 1 October 2009

I reckon the USA has left itself little room to maneouvre with China re any controversial political and economic issues that might arise. Why is this? It's on account of the foreign and economic ...

Decedption at work? -- Turnoi -- 1 October 2009

You do not history either, I think; otherwise you would refrain from your nationalist-like pathos. But may be, the pretending "native son" (who I believe is none) is just posting under another alias ...

Re: Happy Birthday, Zhongguo -- cunning linguist -- 1 October 2009

Congratulations on having the courage to write what you appear to believe. If it was tongue-in-cheek, I was fooled. Have you considered a job as a speechwriter for members of the Politburo of the ...

Re: Happy Birthday, Zhongguo -- Turnoi -- 1 October 2009

From my life in a former communist country, I know for sure that Politbureau is only for a small audience - themselves. They have no credibility among the so-called "masses" whatsoever! I am too old ...

China still has got a long way to go! -- Turnoi -- 30 September 2009

The "native son" writing this praise of a developing country that still needs to go a long way until it reaches the level of general rule of law that is common to all civilised nations on this globe ...

The Grovelling Weasel Hymn - a new literary genre to be taught in ESL! -- Turnoi -- 30 September 2009

Sixty years. Happy birthday. China is much older than the period of sixty years you are mentioning. I suggest you get yourself a history book on China. You've come a long way in a short time. To ...

Re: Happy Birthday, Zhongguo -- Turino -- 30 September 2009

Happy birthday,Zhongguo,whose people and foreign friends should never,never forget your saviour and founder,Chairman Mao,who defeated the Japanese invaders against all the odds while the rest of the ...

Re: Happy Birthday, Zhongguo -- Turnoi -- 1 October 2009

Japanese imperialism, fortunately, was only a paper tiger. Mao Zedong once claimed the same with respect to "American imperialism". I am not sure whether the same would apply with respect to ...

Re: Happy Birthday, Zhongguo -- Non-native son -- 30 September 2009

This pathetic text written by a "native son"? May be by someone who pretends to be a "native son". Hard to believe that a native Chinese would ever post such a text, full of ambitious imperialist and ...

Some more Food for Thought -- Turnoi -- 29 September 2009

For all those who may be interested - I have provided some more 3 free e-books on a number of topics that may interest foreign teachers in China; they are available for download at the links below. ...

Re: Some more Food for Thought -- Migrant Worker -- 30 September 2009

Thank you good sir, I will put this to good use.

ESL Salaries -- Lucio -- 28 September 2009

Hello there, I work for a company that is lloking forward to open an ESL academy for university students, and I would like to know if you can let me know what it will be a regular salary for an ESL ...

Re: ESL Salaries -- Turnoi -- 28 September 2009

If you are in the US, why don't you phone and ask other companies how much they pay their teachers. No need to tell them that you are opening a school yourself as they might be then more ...

How much should I reasonably be looking to earn teaching in China? -- jiangsu -- 28 September 2009

Hello! (Nihao!) I am seriously contemplating teaching English (preferably business English to business people, but would consider posts in high schools or universities) in China. Slightly outgrown my ...

Re: How much should I reasonably be looking to earn teaching in China? -- cunning linguist -- 29 September 2009

Hello. I'll try to answer your questions and perhaps others will chip-in with more information from their experience. Unless you are one of the "fortunate ones" who speak with RP and come from ...

Publishing personal details for job application - think twice! -- Turnoi -- 29 September 2009

There is another reason why it is not an advantage to publish an entire CV on a website. Simply spoken, you will risk your privacy whenever another person is reading all the (sometimes sensitive) ...

Re: Publishing personal details for job application - think twice! -- cunning linguist -- 29 September 2009

This is good advice for anyone wanting to work abroad. There is a world of difference between paranoia and exercising common sense and caution. Perhaps your detractors just didn't see the ...

Re: Publishing personal details for job application - think twice! -- Anonymous Jobseeker -- 30 September 2009

How does applying direct to a public university at one time, later to receive an e-mail inviting another job application for a vacancy at said university, along with the e-mail addresses of around 50 ...

Re: Publishing personal details for job application - think twice! -- cunning linguist -- 30 September 2009

"How does ... sound to you?" In a word - deplorable! You are right in stating that some situations are difficult if not impossible to predict. How written information is used, once it is handed-over, ...

Re: Publishing personal details for job application - think twice! -- Florian -- 1 October 2009

Yes, deplorable is fitting. But China doesn't have the monopoly on deplorable deeds! I regard it as a minor violation of a person's rights compared to other more serious injustices that ...

Re: Publishing personal details for job application - think twice! -- cunning linguist -- 1 October 2009

I couldn't agree more with your comments on deplorable deeds not being restricted to China. Yes, the ‘offence’ of passing on information was minor but it doesn't stop it being unacceptable. ...

Re: Publishing personal details for job application - think twice! -- Florian -- 2 October 2009

Interesting post, Cunning linguist! And I agree with what you have written entirely. I take it you're on around a week's vacation at this time, just like many other FT's here in China. ...

Re: Publishing personal details for job application - think twice! -- cunning linguist -- 2 October 2009

Thanks. I just find it's easier to be informed than remain ignorant. And it's easier to try and be positive and have hope than to sink into despair. The problem is the more I read the more I ...

Re: Publishing personal details for job application - think twice! -- Monitor -- 30 September 2009

Turnoi's words: Years ago, I said a similar thing shortly after I came to post here for the first time. Then, the many grovelling weasels around here at this time called me "paranoid" and ...

Re: Publishing personal details for job application - think twice! -- Turnoi -- 30 September 2009

Quote from your text: If I were you, I wouldn't wait for any of them to repent their sins. My reply: Perhaps, these grovelling weasels were meanwhile eaten up by some very nice animals I am in ...

Re: Teaching in Guangzhou Worldy Cultral &Edcuational Service CO.LTD -- previous employee -- 27 September 2009

i was hired by thiis company in 2008 and only signed a 3 mos contract. upon arrival, they took my passport claiming that they will have to report itto the police that i have arrived. suppose it's ...

Re: Teaching in Guangzhou Worldy Cultral &Edcuational Service CO.LTD -- previous employee -- 27 September 2009

i was hired by thiis company in 2008 and only signed a 3 mos contract. upon arrival, they took my passport claiming that they will have to report itto the police that i have arrived. suppose it's ...

Re: Teaching in Guangzhou Worldy Cultral &Edcuational Service CO.LTD -- Turnoi -- 29 September 2009

I feel sorry to read about your problems. The things you describe is typical for a crappy training centre that has been run down by its incompetent bosses - incompetent both in education and business ...

Re: Teaching in Guangzhou Worldy Cultral &Edcuational Service CO.LTD -- Turnoi -- 29 September 2009

she is extremely rude too! If she is rude, it means it is not possible to sort out your problem with them in "friendly spirit of mutual consultation". Get your Embassy, the Bureau of Foreign Experts, ...

DD Dragon English Schools -- Alex -- 28 September 2009

Anyone know about them at all? I saw a few ads hiring @ DD Dragon English schools around China, so I'd like to find anyones experience or info on them. Thanks!

RE: How necessary is a BA for getting ESL work in South Korea, Taiwan or Japan? -- Lauren -- 28 September 2009

Hi all My question is getting many varied and conflicting responses - hopefully someone on this forum can help. I am a South African interested in teaching in South Korea, Taiwan or Japan. I have ...

Re: RE: How necessary is a BA for getting ESL work in South Korea, Taiwan or Japan? -- ANET -- 29 September 2009

Hi, CELTA, like TESOL and TEFL certificates are an asset, but in South Korea, the Department of Immigration requires a 4 year BA minimum. Universities and Colleges generally require a Master's ...

Re: RE: How necessary is a BA for getting ESL work in South Korea, Taiwan or Japan? -- Turnoi -- 29 September 2009

As far as I know you need a fully recognised uni degree to get a working visa for Japan and Korea, I do not know about Taiwan. In the case of Korea and Taiwan, take great care about your future ...

ESL JOB OPPORTUNITY FOR NON-NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKER IN UAE/KSA -- Haseeb -- 27 September 2009

Dears all, I am a lecturer in English in Pakistan and I want to teach in the Middle East. Can anybody in the real know please let me know what the job opportunity is for an experienced non-native ESL ...

Re: ESL JOB OPPORTUNITY FOR NON-NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKER IN UAE/KSA -- Turnoi -- 27 September 2009

According to what I know English teaching jobs in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates are given to native speakers only. Competition is normally very high because of the high pay. And you are ...

Re: warning new dynamic institute NDI stay away -- mini_me -- 26 September 2009

Hello I have been offered work at the NDI in Wuhan but would rather be in Shanghai. Can anyone at NDI let me know if there is any work in Shanghai with NDI?

Re: warning new dynamic institute NDI stay away -- Winston -- 26 September 2009

Why don't you google NDI (Shanghai)? I expect you'll be able to discover the e-mail address of that branch of NDI by doing so. Then you can contact the DOS there with ease. Undoubtedly, ...

Screenshot -- Turnoi -- 23 September 2009

This is a screenshot from my computer; the wallpaper shows some elephants in the area near to Mount Kilimanjaro; mount Kilimanjaro can be seen in the back. It is an nice pic, I think, which I wanted ...

LLC MALDIVES -- LEYSAN Gazizova -- 23 September 2009

My dear friends, who try to apply for the LLC Maldives. I worked in here 1year before and came back for 3 months to teach French, English and Russian, as I`m a teacher with a diploma. Hoping for ...

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Re: Aston English Review -- Turnoi -- 23 September 2009

At least in China, Aston is a crappy place to work for! Stay away from that pretend school, you won't be happy there!

Z-visa and Employment Permit Expenses. -- Renz -- 23 September 2009

Hi Everybody! I am just curious about the Z-Visa and Employment Permit expenses. Who should shoulder the corresponding expenses? Is there any mandate from the Department of Foreign Experts about this ...

Re: Z-visa and Employment Permit Expenses. -- Monitor -- 23 September 2009

I am just curious about the Z-Visa and Employment Permit expenses. Who should shoulder the corresponding expenses? Is there any mandate from the Department of Foreign Experts about this matter? The ...

Re: Z-visa and Employment Permit Expenses. -- Turnoi -- 23 September 2009

As far as I know, all expenses for medical, residence permit and Foreign Expert Certificate are to be borne by the employer. This is common practice, if not even a rule. On the hand, you are expected ...

Clarification on this sites phonetics -- Sridhar Ramasami -- 22 September 2009

Hi, I am looking at this site http://upodn.com/phun.asp to get the phonetics for many words. I have a basic question: What is the difference between the IPA and the American options? Also, I am ...

Re: Clarification on this sites phonetics -- Sridhar Ramasami -- 24 September 2009

Hi Tornoi and cunning linguist, Thanks for your help. Appreciate it. Sridhar

Re: Clarification on this sites phonetics -- cunning linguist -- 24 September 2009

Thanks. For further clarification the online Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English no longer shows the phonetics. In their attempt to boost sales of both print and CD ROM versions they have ...

Re: Clarification on this sites phonetics -- cunning linguist -- 23 September 2009

Once again Turnoi has provided a detailed response to your question. If I can add anything it would be to say that the fundamental differences between American and British English are not just in ...

Re: Clarification on this sites phonetics -- cunning linguist -- 23 September 2009

I forgot to post this link. The material on this BBC site I have found to be very useful. http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learningenglish/grammar/pron/sounds

Re: Clarification on this sites phonetics -- Turnoi -- 22 September 2009

IPA means "International Phonetic Association". In the last century, IPA had developed a transcription system that is meant to cover all the sounds in the (ideally) all the languages of the world in ...

Re: Clarification on this sites phonetics -- Turnoi -- 23 September 2009

I went to the site you mentioned in your original post and played around a bit with it for fun. I made some input and got the following: Sentence example input: I love my pets, the crocodiles. IPA ...

FULL TIME TEACHING POSITION BUT SALARY IS PAID BASED ON ACTUAL TEACHING HOURS -- Renz Daguplo -- 22 September 2009

I was offered a teaching position in a private University from Xi'an City, China. The school looks great but I keep wondering if it is fair enough that my salary will be based on my actual ...

Re: FULL TIME TEACHING POSITION BUT SALARY IS PAID BASED ON ACTUAL TEACHING HOURS -- Victor -- 24 September 2009

You don't need an advice. Any sane person person can clearly think and decide that it is best not to entertain that job offer. Since you need an advice, it is clear that you are what the school ...

Re: FULL TIME TEACHING POSITION BUT SALARY IS PAID BASED ON ACTUAL TEACHING HOURS -- Monitor -- 25 September 2009

You don't need an advice. Any sane person person can clearly think and decide that it is best not to entertain that job offer. Since you need an advice, it is clear that you are what the school ...

Re: FULL TIME TEACHING POSITION BUT SALARY IS PAID BASED ON ACTUAL TEACHING HOURS -- Turnoi -- 25 September 2009

Neither would I be really happy about it......

Re: FULL TIME TEACHING POSITION BUT SALARY IS PAID BASED ON ACTUAL TEACHING HOURS -- Turnoi -- 22 September 2009

No, the terms and conditions look pretty unfair, and you should not take the job!!!! They are looking for someone they can fully exploit! DO NOT TAKE THIS JOB, and look somewhere else!

Re: FULL TIME TEACHING POSITION BUT SALARY IS PAID BASED ON ACTUAL TEACHING HOURS -- Monitor -- 22 September 2009

My advice is that you should compare and contrast the teaching contract you've been offered with the standard state contract below: ...

Re: FULL TIME TEACHING POSITION BUT SALARY IS PAID BASED ON ACTUAL TEACHING HOURS -- Renz -- 23 September 2009

Hi "Monitor", Thank you for your concern. The draft of the contract which was sent by the university to me is quite similar to the standard contract from the Foreign Experts Affairs. The only ...

Re: Anyone give information about IGiT group in Saudi Arabia -- ygebray -- 21 September 2009

Hi John, I have been contacted as well for a teaching position in Jeddah. I too am seeking information about the company and experience. I hope we can keep one another posted on updated information. ...

Re: Anyone give information about IGiT group in Saudi Arabia -- aero-plane -- 28 October 2009

----- I have just been contracted as well. Any info? -----

Re: Anyone give information about IGiT group in Saudi Arabia -- jeo2002 -- 18 November 2009

I was told through an employment agency in Canada that IGIT accepted my application to work in SA. I was actually never told where the university was, or given any details about classes and ...

Phonemic symbols -- cunning linguist -- 21 September 2009

Can anyone recommend and provide a link to a free software program that will print the phonetic characters (pronuncation)? for each or most of the words I type. I've been using the BBC Learning ...

Re: Phonemic symbols -- Turnoi -- 21 September 2009

Hi, CL - I think you could try Speech Tools from the software section at www.sil.org. It is a free application to download from there. You might perhaps also need script font that contains this ...

Re: Phonemic symbols//Software links for you -- Turnoi -- 21 September 2009

Hi, CL - I am off work now, it's quite late in the evening here, and I have found now the time to supply the exact links to the tools I mentioned in my previous reply; here they are: IPA program: ...

Re: Phonemic symbols//Software links for you -- cunning linguist -- 21 September 2009

Thanks very much Turnoi. You have saved me several hours of guesswork and searching for what works in this situation. Regards CL

Re: health insurance -- cunning linguist -- 20 September 2009

Thanks. Interesting that you will walk on the pavements. In some places these are as dangerous for the unsuspecting pedestrian as the roads. Ha Ha Riddle: Why did the FT cross the Chinese road? ...

Re: health insurance -- cider fairy -- 23 September 2009

Thanks. I looked it up: tell me, do you know if one has to be - how shall I say - a 'member' in order to apply for their insurance. By the way, in Suzhou it's safer to walk in the road ...

Re: health insurance -- cunning linguist -- 23 September 2009

The two colleagues are practising Christians so it is possible that the insurance from the company in Malaysia is specific to those "members". I have signed up for the university health plan as ...

Re: Holiday 'Adjustments' (aka manipulations) -- Dave -- 20 September 2009

Thank you again, Turnoi. The matter was dealt with in the 'spirit of friendly co-operation' with the only man in the place who is prepared to display a similar attitude, and I leave the ...

Re: Holiday 'Adjustments' (aka manipulations) -- Turnoi -- 21 September 2009

Anyway, good luck to you! Turnoi

Re: Holiday 'Adjustments' (aka manipulations) -- Monitor -- 20 September 2009

Yes, Dave, move on. It's the best way! I'm glad that you have proved yourself not to be a groveling weasel. Though you were in the right, your Chinese employer won't ever accept that. In ...

Grovelling weasels and the power of teeth -- Turnoi -- 21 September 2009

Monitor, it may take some time for other board readers to realise that at this moment I may be the only grovelling weasel around. My "targets" are not poorly paid FTs in China but those who pay them ...

Re: Holiday 'Adjustments' (aka manipulations) -- Turnoi -- 20 September 2009

I fully agree, Monitor, with you. Unless FTs and Chinese colleagues as well have the courage to speak up against their bosses in such cases, nothing will change. There is definitely a need for change ...